That's fine if that's the expected routine for county hunters. I've
never participated in county hunting. That procedure may or may not
have gotten you a QSO with ST0R or 7O6T.

73, Zack W9SZ

On 6/19/12, Duane, WV2B <w...@juno.com> wrote:
> Well, I remember when my good friend K2NJ {now an sk} was on CY9. I badly
> wanted to work him, but there was no way with the masses of DXers screaming
> their "last two" in phonetics non-stop without even waiting to see if Bill
> had called someone else. I didn't stand a chance with my puny signal. But,
> knowing Bill had operated for many years with the county hunters, and was
> used to not having to translate phonetics, I waited 2 seconds for the first
> wave of last two phonetics, then said my call- WV2B. Bill replied to the
> pileup- "Is that you Duane?" I said yes WV2B you're 59. The contact when in
> the log as one of my most memorable contacts. I would have never worked him
> if I had spent hours calling with the crowd using phonetics. The issue is
> not whether phonetics are right or wrong. They certainly are not wrong. But,
> if one wants to participate in an activity with standard operating
> procedures, or with a net control station, shouldn't they be willing to
> conform to the operating procedures used by all other stations
> participating, or as directed by the net control station? Apparently my
> suggestion has offended some people, which is not my intention. But there
> are 2 sides to every story, and I had hoped that by explaining the standard
> procedure the sport of county hunting would not just be left with a black
> eye in the eyes of the DX community. We could argue all day whether
> phonetics are a good idea or not, but that is not really the point. I also
> remember when operating on CY9 we were trying to get stations to use full
> callsigns. I located a loud US station calling in the slit window with his
> last 2. I repeated my instructions- full callsigns please. for an
> experiment, rather than tuning on, I decided to see how long it would take
> for the station to follow my instruction. I stated 6 times- full callsigns
> only please. The station called me 6 times with the last two. On the 7th
> time, he called with his full call, and got a 59 and the contact. I always
> wondered if he realized how long I had been listening to him giving his last
> two. So yes, we can be proud and believe we know the best way to operate,
> and do it regardless of standard procedures for the group, or instructions
> from a net control, or instructions from a DX station. Maybe we are right.
> Maybe it is best to always use phonetics no matter what any net control or
> DX station or operator says. But, maybe by cooperating, things will run
> smoothly and we'll get the contact, even if not in the perfect textbook
> manner we believe is right. Sorry if anyone is offended. That is not my
> purpose. There are 2 sides to every story. 73, Duane, WV2B  "You cannot do a
> kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it
>  will be too late."
> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Zack Widup <w9sz.z...@gmail.com>
> To: dx-chat <dx-chat@njdxa.org>
> Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] County Hunter's Net Procedures
> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:04:37 -0500
>
>
> In VHF weak-signal circles around here, most of the active ops within
> a few hundred miles know me. But if I just sign "W9SZ" people get me
> confused with W9FZ. In fact, it happened in the VHF contest a couple
> weeks ago. I was even using phonetics at the time and the other
> station said "Hi Bruce, I have my antenna pointed the wrong way."
> After a few more repeats of my phonetics, he said "Oh hi Zack, sorry."
>
> As far as I'm concerned, it's never wrong to use phonetics.
>
> 73, Zack W9SZ
>
>
> On 6/18/12, Joe Orsak <jor...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Guess I won't be joining that group, where I come from if you rely on a
>> spot
>> and don't actually copy a stations callsign it is not a contact.
>>
>> DX IS,
>> County hunting done that way AIN'T
>>
>> Joe W4WN
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:55 AM, "Duane, WV2B" <w...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> From the MARAC county hunting information page:
>>>
>>> "The County Hunter Net which you found on 14.336 or 7.188 operates
>>> during
>>> the daylight hours every day and sometimes into the evening. Most of the
>>> time the pace is fast and furious with mobiles making contacts at the
>>> rate
>>> of 8 to 10 per minute. You will also notice that we do not use phonetics
>>> in the call signs. The reason for this is obvious if you listen to the
>>> net
>>> for a while. The use of phonetics slows down the cadence and rhythm of
>>> the
>>> mobile operator. The mobile operators train their ears to hear call
>>> signs
>>> and cannot take the time to translate what they are not used to hearing.
>>> When you first start working the mobiles you will notice that your call
>>> sign will be recognized immediately in just a few days."
>>>
>>> The County Hunter's Net prides itself on being a cooperative effort,
>>> rather than a competition. Experience has shown that many more contacts
>>> can be made during a short mobile run by avoiding the use of phonetics.
>>> This is a departure from the norms of DXing, but if one allows a few
>>> days
>>> to grasp the way things work they will soon discover they work the same
>>> mobiles over and over in hundreds of different counties, and the mobiles
>>> work the same county hunters and will learn a new persons call after a
>>> few
>>> mobile runs. We also have a spotting network where one can see the
>>> correct
>>> callsign if they are not sure of the mobiles callsign.
>>>
>>> While it may seem unusual to have procedures different from DXing, it
>>> should not be unreasonable to expect to adjust one's operating to a new
>>> activity, rather than expect an established net with hundreds of
>>> participants to be expected to adjust to our ideas.
>>>
>>> It is a great activity, and the only way possible for one to complete
>>> working all the US Counties. Within days or maybe a week or two, a
>>> newcomer will find he recognizes most of the calls, and knows most of
>>> the
>>> participants by name. Lack of phonetics is not any impediment to
>>> enjoying
>>> the net.
>>>
>>> So, if you would like to try working all the US Counties in a
>>> cooperative
>>> effort, then join the nets and see if you like it. You might find it
>>> refreshing to work a station for a needed contact who knows you by name,
>>> and maybe will meet you at a convention. Competition is fun, but some
>>> activities just don't require it.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Duane, WV2B
>>> USA-CA All Counties 773
>>> 2nd Time all counties 286
>>>
>>>
>>> "You cannot do a kindness too soon, for you never know how soon it
>>>  will be too late."
>>> Ralph Waldo Emerson
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