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With all due respect Joe, since the DXCC Desk has not announced their
reasoning, it is premature at best to start railing at them for "thumbing
their noses at the DXCC rules."

Distance is not the only criteria involved.

And for that matter, you yourself admitted on the CQ Contest reflector that
the Great Circle distance between the closest points on Bonaire and Saba was
801 km & change.  That IS the criteria that has been used for distance in
the recent past, and it IS (barely) more than enough.

You and only you, to my knowledge, is claiming a lesser calculation (799.6
km & change) according to the WGS84 "spherical" calculation, which has never
before been used.  You and only you are demanding that the DXCC use this
allegedly more precise calculation.  

Come to think of it, you have been setting yourself up to gripe about this
for weeks if not months.  I do believe you made more than a few
announcements on CQ Contest that if the DXCC Desk did not do as you
demanded, you were going to raise holy heck.  Well, they didn't, and sure
enough, here you are.  

And I don't want another Baldwin's Reef, or another Romeo or Dr. Don Miller
type operation, anymore than anyone else.  Comparing this decision, a
decision that we all knew for years was eventually coming, to those is
hyperbole that goes way over the top.

Your outrage and point that you vehemently disagree with the decision, even
though you haven't heard the reasoning behind it yet, is duly noted.  

Now why don't we wait and see what the reasoning is before you tar and
feather everyone who disagrees with you?

73

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [DX-NEWS] Unbelievable!


The DXCC Desk have chosen to thumb their noses at the DXCC rules
and announced four (4) "new ones" effective 10/10/10.  See:
<http://www.arrl.org/news/dissolution-of-netherlands-antilles-creates-four-n
ew-dxcc-entities> 


Since the rules no longer seem to apply, what will be the next
"Baldwin's Reef"?  Will we see more out of country operations
like those of Romeo and Don Miller?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/12/2010 3:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> Well, it's official, the Department of State has only listed
> St. Maarten and Curacao as "Dependencies and Areas of Special
> Sovereignty."
>
> Since the separation between Bonaire and Saba is less than the
> required 800 km when calculated using the more accurate WGS84
> standard, the BES Islands *should* qualify as a *one* entity.
> The "bed has been made" ... if ARRL follow the rules, there
> will be *three* "new ones." We'll see how important the rules
> are.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>


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