No official decision has been made.? Keep
an eye on the DX bulletins.
From: PY2HS - Cláudio
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003
To: Bernie McClenny, W3UR
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'DXR'
Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] is credit
for 2000 4W operations being revoked?
About Timor Lest and the question: It's IN or
OUT DXCC list?
Subject: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: Timor Leste
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:26:15 -0500
From: K9AJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:57:41 -0700
>From: Stu Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Timor Leste
>A petition was filed with the Chief Executive Officer of ARRL today
>seeking removal of UNTAET (United Nations Transitional Administration in
>East Timor) from the DXCC entities list and for the addition of Timor
>Leste as an entity.
>The DXCC2000 rule under which 4W was added reads:
"b. The entity has been assigned a call sign prefix bloc
by the ITU. A provisional prefix bloc assignment may be
made by the Secretary General of ITU. Should such
provisional assignments not be ratified later by the
> full ITU, the
Entity will be removed from the DXCC List "
>The assignment was not ratified and UNTAET returned it to ITU which has
>reissued the block 4WA-4WZ to Timor Leste. It is the position of
>and myself that the addition of 4W to the DXCC entities list was premature
>and that a mistake was made. This mistake has been acknowledged by
>the gentlemen who made it.
>ARRL is comprised of people and has, in the past, acknowledged mistakes
>when countries were deleted under the former DXCC rules. Islands
>proved not to have existed are an example and the island of Okinotorishima
>was deleted because it simply was mistakenly added to the list.
>We expect that after due and hopefully prompt consideration ARRL will
>understand the fact that a mistake has been made and that Timor Leste will
>be added to the entities list.
>There was a five day operation a few weeks ago in Timor Leste and there is
>a continuing operation there at the present time. The bulletins will
"Bernie McClenny, W3UR" wrote:
This is incorrect.
The only QSOs from 4W East Timor, now called Timor-Leste, that do not
count are QSOs between May 20, 2002 and early May 2003. I think the
only station that this would pertain to is 4W6MM. I don’t think there
were any other 4W operations between those dates.
No official word has been
made about Removing or Adding East Timor/Timor-Leste!
Bernie McClenny, W3UR
Editor of The Daily DX, The Weekly DX and How's DX.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dick Green
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 22:50
Subject: [DX-NEWS] is credit for
2000 4W operations being revoked?
Forgive me if this isn't an
appropriate question for this reflector. I think it's news, at least to me.
A DXer friend claims that DXCC
credit for all of the initial 4W (East Timor) operations back in 2000 are going
to be revoked because the documentation was not issued by the proper
authorities (he thought maybe the licenses were issued by the UN, which would make
it a different entity that is now deleted.) He thought some of the recent
operations are legitimate for East Timor and will be accepted for credit. I
haven't seen anything about this in the ARRL bulletins or anywhere else (though
I admit to possibly not paying close enough attention.) Is this true? If so,
which operations are OK?
Here are the operations I've worked:
4W6MM (11/25/00 -- CQWW CW)
4W3CW (05/25/03 -- CQ WPX CW)
Are any (all) of these good?