Pete, As I understand it, the LoTW upload process adds all new records, which are automatically marked as active QSOs. If a duplicate (previous upload) QSO exists, it is marked as "inactive" - but never deleted. Your total QSO count will increase, but if you perform a Query on your QSOs you will only see the active records, not the duplicate inactive records.
-larry K8UT ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Smith To: Larry Gauthier (K8UT) Cc: Andy Hewitt ; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 06:26 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4Win/LoTW help and advice please - Again! I'm confused. Here is a section from a relatively recent activity report from LOTW in which I inadvertently overlapped with a previous upload. LOTW appears to be reporting a replacement, not an additional duplicate record. 2008-11-20 21:27:29 LOTW_QSO: QSO record QSLs a contact 2008-11-20 21:27:29 LOTW_QSO: QSO: N4ZR N6HC 2008-01-12 21:53:20Z 20M CW 2008-11-20 21:27:30 LOTW_QSO: [Additional QSL notices suppressed] 2008-11-20 21:30:29 LOTW_QSO: WARNING: QSO replaces existing record 2008-11-20 21:30:29 LOTW_QSO: QSO: N4ZR ZC4LI 2008-03-15 12:08:28Z 20M CW 2008-11-20 21:30:32 LOTW_QSO: WARNING: QSO replaces existing record 2008-11-20 21:30:32 LOTW_QSO: QSO: N4ZR EU1PA 2008-03-15 12:08:55Z 20M CW 2008-11-20 21:30:32 LOTW_QSO: WARNING: QSO replaces existing record ... But at the end of the report, it says: "1919 records were duplicates" But my DX4WIN says 102966 QSOs, and LOTW says 106,867 records, which would seem to suggest that Larry is correct, and I have overlapped at least once before. But then why say "replaces existing record"? 73, Pete On 7/9/2009 5:49 AM, Larry Gauthier (K8UT) wrote: Andy, Can I go back and delete the last upload and repeat it? Aha... you have just uncovered an intentional design feature of LoTW: uploaded records cannot be deleted. Even if you upload the EXACT SAME QSO records a second time, LoTW adds new records and your QSO count discrepancy between DX4Win and LoTW will increase. I could reset the upload flags and upload the whole log but would that help? No. Your LoTW QSO record count will double and your problem will remain. There is obviously a discrepancy somewhere... My uneducated guess is that when you "also added some very old QSOs" to LoTW they were already there - part of an earlier upload that you forgot about? You now have 10 duplicate records. Or {as I have done} when I discover an error with an already-uploaded QSO in DX4Win, I correct the error and re-upload the QSO. In that case, the old wrong QSO is still there along with the new corrected QSO. [Aha... another intentional design feature of LoTW: uploaded records cannot be edited.] You have a QSO-count discrepancy that will not go away, and your best approach is to be diligent in tracking future uploads so that you don't increase the gap. Some users upload their entire log EVERY TIME they upload {imagine their discrepancy!} which is why you may get more than one notification of a QSO match. You get notified (a downloaded QSO ADIF record)every time that person re-uploads a QSO that matches with yours. There are lots of good architectural reasons why LoTW prohibits record deletions, so rather than argue with ARRL's design team it's best to just understand how LoTW works and "get over it." ;-) The reality is that LoTW is not really a "logbook", but more closely resembles "eHarmony.com for QSOs." Some QSOs find more than one match {kinda reminds me of some politicians in the News lately!} while others are a 1:1 relationship. -larry K8UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Hewitt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 03:15 Subject: [Dx4win] DX4Win/LoTW help and advice please - Again! I have just uploaded 24 recent 6m QSOs to LoTW but have a glitch. The actual upload was for 27 QSOs as I also added some very old QSOs into my log for some QSL cards that I found for some contacts back in the 1980s. When the QSOs were uploaded every thing seemed OK but I noticed that my total log QSOs in DX4Win is 15455 but LoTW shows 15466. Until this upload my log and LoTW concurred. It was not rejected nor was a discrepancy high lighted until I tried to download the report. When I did this I got a window in DX4Win saying "Upload aborted duplicate QSO A7/M0GFA". I have looked at the activity report and it says "no discrepancy found" and also says that amongst others it found a QSL for A7/M0FGA. There is obviously a discrepancy somewhere but I cannot find it. Can I go back and delete the last up load and repeat it? Would that solve the problem? I could reset the upload flags and upload the whole log but would that help? There are some really good QSLs in addition to the A7 that I would like to get correctly into DX4Win. Thank you for any help and suggestions. 73 Andy G3SVD ______________________________________________________________ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Dx4win mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
