Randy,

I too am excited that Paul finally implemented a start date for DXCC CW.  I 
also have QSOs dating back to 1967.  I have been comparing the Summary 
totals and the Listing totals for CW between ver 8.0 and 7.07.  I personally 
like the way that Paul has implemented the DXCC Listing for CW.  For 
example, I have a CW contact with ZL4OL/A from 1971 that I had submitted for 
DXCC Mixed and 20M Band credit.  Prior versions would always attempt to 
submit this contact for DXCC CW credit.  Now it does not.  When I do a DXCC 
Listing for CW mode, there is an asterisk on 20M for that contact -- and 
that is correct since I did make a CW contact on that band -- and I want to 
see it since I may have submitted it for DXCC Band/Challenge credit. 
However, the new Listing for CW does not have an asterisk for that contact 
under the first column which is CW mode.  And that is correct also, since it 
occurred prior to 1975.  The Listing also works fine for Deleted Countries 
prior to 1975.  For example, I have a number of KZ5 contacts on CW that 
prior versions would always try to submit for CW credit.  The Listing shows 
asterisks on the bands on which I made those QSOs on CW, but does not show 
an asterisk under the CW mode column -- which is exactly the way that I 
would want the data displayed.

I also like the new band map.  I still do not see a way to easily submit 
both Lotw and Card confirmations for DXCC.  I wish the Submission report 
would list how the contacts were confirmed -- e.g. Lotw, Card, etc.  That 
way I could more easily separate out Lotw submissions from Card submissions 
when making an online submission of both types via the Lotw website.

But I am placing my order for 8.0 tonight!

Dave, N4QS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Farmer" <w...@tx.rr.com>
To: <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: [Dx4win] V8.01 Observations (long)


>I downloaded and had a look at the new version today. I don't yet
> have my license key, but I was able to import my version 7 log and
> check out some of the new features. Importing the Version 6/7 format
> log file into Version 8 was absolutely trouble free. I did have to
> re-do some of my custom Logbook Report formats to account for the new
> fields, but this was no problem at all. All of my Selections and
> Group definitions imported perfectly.
>
> I'm especially glad to see the improvements to the LOTW record
> keeping and the elimination of the need to explicitly filter the log
> by date selection to get accurate DXCC CW statistics. The testing
> I've done so far has concentrated on checking out the DXCC CW
> reporting. Unfortunately, I have found some problems.
>
> I have around 56K QSOs in my log, the vast majority being CW. The log
> files go back to 1965, so there are a good many CW QSOs in the log
> that were made prior to being eligible for CW DXCC credit. Some of
> these have been submitted for Mixed and Band DXCC credit. I also keep
> track of my DXCC records using a fairly elaborate Excel spreadsheet
> and make sure it's updated every time the DX4WIN log changes and/or I
> receive new DXCC credits from ARRL. My standard procedure is to do a
> quick compare of the DX4WIN DXCC Summary reports against this
> spreadsheet each time after importing LOTW data or making any other
> changes to the log.
>
> I checked out the Version 8 DXCC Summary reports and found right away
> that regardless of the selection made in the dropdown boxes the
> Summary report ALWAYS gives the stats for All Bands / All Modes. The
> good news is that these stats are completely accurate, including the
> CW numbers. I tried all combinations of the "Modes" and "Bands"
> dropdown choices and always got the All modes / All bands report.
>
> I then took a look at the Listing reports for various band and mode
> combinations.To use the Listings data, I use the Write to File option
> to dump the report data to csv format to import into Excel. It's
> disappointing that while the Listing report format has changed
> slightly, it STILL uses the asterisk (*) character to designate
> "Checked" status. The asterisk is a special wild card character in
> Excel, and directly importing the csv file makes it impossible to
> edit and manipulate the data -- weird things happen. This means I
> still need to first run the csv file through Wordpad or some similar
> text editor to do a search and replace of the asterisk with some
> other character so I can use the file in Excel. It would be real nice
> if the report output used some other character to show "Checked" status.
>
>  All of the DXCC reports except for CW were completely correct.
> There were multiple discrepancies for CW DXCC, which upon close
> examination all turned out to be the result of counting pre-1975 QSOs
> for CW credit. If these old records were excluded from the
> statistics, the CW report would be totally accurate. I have taken
> great care in setting the Mixed, Band and Mode credit flags for these
> older QSOs in the log file, and none has the Mode credit flag set,
> yet the report claimed that they were credited for CW. Apparently the
> internal logic of the program looks at neither the QSO date nor the
> status of the DXCC Mode flag when it generates the DXCC report.
>
> So we're almost there... The Summary gets the CW statistics correct,
> so there's clearly some logic that runs on QSO date, but it's
> obviously incompletely implemented.
>
> Also regarding the Listing report, when including Deleted entities
> the new version sorts its output in alphabetical Prefix order without
> regard for whether the prefix is for a Deleted entity or not. The
> older versions put all the Deleteds in alphabetical order at the
> bottom of the prefix list, a MUCH better way to present the data. I
> had to immediately re-sort the imported csv files to get them in the
> same order as the data from Version 7. Please restore the Version 8
> Listing report to the same format as the Version 7 and earlier listings!
>
> There is also some sort of internal coding error that caused me a bit
> of hair pulling. For some reason, while the prefix for Minami
> Torishima is JD1/M, the Listing report renders it as JD1/W and thus
> interchanges the lines for Minami Torishima and Ogasawara, JD1/O. It
> was no fun dealing with this until I took a close look at the report
> and saw the incorrect prefix.
>
> Apart from these small problems, I like the looks of the enhancements
> to this new version of DX4WIN. I'm looking forward to getting my
> license key and doing more testing with live hardware. Thanks to Paul
> for a significant improvement in this new generation of the program.
> With a little tuning it will be a great leap forward.
>
> 73...
> Randy, W8FN
>
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