Mel, come on it is not necessary to ask - always - for some of common or usual. I do not talking about a common software. I talking about my logging software and about a function I am looking for. There are some software able to create virtual ports. I was advised to run VSPE that seems to be just perfect for what I looking for but while other software (for example HRD and ARCP2000) are working flawlessly dx4win "gives numbers". So because it is not easy to find a third party software able to accommodate, say dx4win and HRD on the same com, on the same radio, at the same time, I am trying to ask *if is possible* to thing about that by Paul, developers of the software that I love. I am not interested about other software. If I was, may be I made a different choice well before. If you are able to find a software setup with third party emulator *running flawless* I will be happy in the same way.
73 de Tibor, IK2SAI -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Mel [mailto:[email protected]] Inviato: venerdì 28 agosto 2009 20.57 A: Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - Oggetto: Re: [Dx4win] R: R: wish list for 8.02 or later Oh I understand Tibor. Probably he has to make a little money to justify the time he spends on it to the XYL ;-) I don't agree that supplying virtual com ports is a normal function of logging software. Can you gibe me one example of logging software that provides this function? I can give you many examples of logging software that doesn't. Writelog, N1MM, DXLabs, Logic, Win-EQF, Logger32, DXBase, Win-TEST, and at least a dozen others I have tried. I may take a look at some Virtual COM port software and see if I can get it to work with DX4Win. I will post to the reflector if I find one that works. Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - wrote: > Mel i hope to be understood. > I think that dx4win is great. I wrote in my previous messages that for me > there is only dx4win as a logging software. > All the time I download a new logging software (believe me I have made it > tenth of time) I am reassured by myself that no other software even come > close to "our" dx4win. > I well understand that Paul is not going to be rich with dx4win even if I > suppose there should be some thousands of licences running around out there. > Any way I am not interested in Paul's pocket affair: if he is still > developing dx4win or he enjoy doing that or he can earn enough money for > himself to be happy or both of them. > We are just talking about possible way to develope our favourite sw and just > talking about my - personal - wish list. It is the very first time that I > ask something for dx4win but I think that I am not alone about that. > Because dx4win is a logging software and not a CAT I understand that at > this time it is gonna be some of very tedious to start a CAT develop. > But because there are some CAT software (I mentioned HRD but it is not > alone: as I said kenwood owners are proud of their proprietary CAT program: > they are simply the best even respect to HRD) I think should be much better > to give the chance to dx4win owner to run at the same time 2 software on the > same com in order to CAT at 100% the radio and in order to enjoy the benefit > coming from either software. > I know that Simon is 1) a great Ham 2) is a great software developer BUT it > is not the only one and all the time a CAT software take live we should go > to the developer asking for that. > No, sorry, this is something related to dx4win. > Instead of spending time for a serious CAT interface, in MY opinion should > be much more interesting to find the way to give the chance of choice the > preferred CAT sw running at the same time with dx4win. > > 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Mel [mailto:[email protected]] > Inviato: venerdì 28 agosto 2009 16.41 > A: Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - > Oggetto: Re: [Dx4win] R: wish list for 8.02 or later > > see comments below > > Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - wrote: >> Ciao Mel. >> No, i did not asked to Simon. >> HRD is going to implement a fine Log with the 5.0 release and I think he >> should...or would be not so interested in interfacing to thirdy party >> logging software. > > Why not? I really don't think Simon is motivated by business > considerations... HRD is an altruistic undertaking... if he was out to > make money there are better things he could do with his time. The same > is true for Paul;) > >> We have to keep in mind that HRD is free while Dx4Win is not. > > It makes some money... but Paul has to pay for his development tools and > every hour he spends on DX4Win is an hour he could be spending doing > contract work at typically $50-$100 per hour depending on where he > lives. I'm pretty sure his motive isn't profit. There are some Ham > software developers who have accumulated enough money through other > business ventures that they can afford to develop software just for > fun... Probably Paul isn't there yet ;) > >> The com emulator is something, I think, I have to ask to Paul. >> It is dx4win that can't compete with HRD for CAT. HRD respect the log is >> much more further. >> And I think we are talking about software. So I can imagine that with some >> hardware interface problems should be solved but, because something can > be >> done on the software as well, here is my request. >> >> About HRD log...well I imported my 36000 qsos and was not so slow. What >> impressed to me is that all the time I ad one qso it takes so much time >> that, if I am a runner on some frequency, I certainly run faster than my >> log! >> After all I can confirm that dx4win is just the best software logging >> software. > > I agree if speed and accuracy are the most important criteria. (they are > for me). There are other programs with many more... and useful... features. > > BTW, go to the EQSL site and look at the pages on logging software and > note the number of uploads based on software. DX4Win is ranked first > with nearly 8 million QSOs uploaded. The only one close is Logger32 but > that is free software (and you know about Hams and their legendary > reluctance to open their wallet). Bear in mind that DX4Win, until > recently, wasn't the easiest software to use with eQSL! > >> Because I use it since 1.07 release (December 1997) I would like >> to see as better as it can and I do not want to miss it due the CAT > problems > > Paul needs to do a bit of work on CAT... maybe he will do it. But if I > were in his situation I wouldn't embark on any new features until all > the old ones are working first. > >> But year after year...new radio after new radio, can be clear that the >> problem is getting better. Today most of the home Ham radio stations are >> built if not on a computer base...around a computer and all new rigs have >> simpler connectivity. >> >> 73 de Tibor, IK2SAI >> >> -----Messaggio originale----- >> Da: Mel [mailto:[email protected]] >> Inviato: venerdì 28 agosto 2009 15.02 >> A: Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - >> Cc: [email protected] >> Oggetto: Re: [Dx4win] wish list for 8.02 or later >> >> Hi Tibor. >> >> AFIK #2 is being considered... it might take a while... bugs need to be >> fixed first. >> >> re #1... I think you should ask Simon to implement that in HRD since his >> program would create that requirement with any logging program. (Maybe >> he did... did you ask him?) I use multiple virtual ports as implemented >> my Microham and that works perfectly. As for DX4Win users switching to >> HRD logging... not a chance. D4W users use it for a reason... very fast >> performance and the most accurate award tracking. Did you try Simons' >> log? It uses Microsoft Jet DB so is SLOOOOOW! Here is an example... >> >> On my not so fast hamshack computer to import 25K QSOs... >> >> DX4Win (proprietary DB)... about 1 minute. >> Logic8 (Foxbase)... about 5 minutes. >> DXLabs (MS Jet)... about 30 minutes. >> HRD Log (MS Jet)... about 30 minutes >> >> DX4Win to open... about 3 seconds >> HRD Log to open... about 30 seconds... that's a looong time when you are >> waiting ;-) >> >> To be fair... I am sure HRD will get faster... Simon is an amazing >> programmer... but he can't make the MS Jet DB go any faster... I suspect >> Microsoft designed it that way to push people to it's SQL server ;) I >> believe he supports connections to other databases such as mySQL but >> that is starting to get complicated for the average user. >> >> Also, using MS Jet DB does make it much easier to access your data... >> for example... you have almost unlimited ability to make adjustments or >> corrections to your log if you are familiar with ACCESS. >> >> Nonetheless, you can't beat D4W for speed. >> >> >> Tibor M. Blum - IK2SAI - wrote: >>> Ok, i don't know if it is appropriate at this time to make a post like >> this. >>> >>> >>> Any way: I would like to ask a pair of things to Paul. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) we can understand that CAT is a very complicated matter. Dx4win >> do >>> that in a very primitive manner. But. now that dx4win has the band map >>> should be very interesting to run connected to the radio. Problem is that >>> many of us are using dedicated CAT software like HRD or, for the TS2000, >> the >>> ARCP2000. Many of use have more than 2.3 radio connected. The only way to >>> run dx4win together with such these software is a com emulator. I tried a >>> number of them but they show some problem with dx4win. Now, because > dx4win >>> will be not a CAT program but it is simply the best logging software >> around >>> should be a nice feature if, dx4win itself provides a virtual com > system, >>> good for itself and good for us running a multitasking system. Should be > a >>> nice touch now that the best cat program around (HRD) is going to >> implement >>> a logging software by itself (HRD). Some people should be driven to >> migrate >>> from dx4win to HRD log. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2) This is much more simple. I ham an avid cluster user. All the >> time >>> that I connect to my node I do have a number of operations that should be >>> easy to implement like a macro or something like that. I mean that when I >>> start dx4win, my log should be connected directly to my node and should >>> clean all the previous spots in its windows. At the contrary they are all >>> manual opr. >>> >>> >>> >>> Holidays are at the end.. Contest season is back to the door and seems >> that >>> propagation is going to do a better job than last year. >>> >>> 73 and good dx >>> >>> >>> >>> Tibor, IK2SAI >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Dx4win mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. >> Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com >> Versione: 8.5.409 / Database dei virus: 270.13.70/2329 - Data di > rilascio: >> 08/27/09 08:11:00 >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dx4win mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. > Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com > Versione: 8.5.409 / Database dei virus: 270.13.70/2329 - Data di rilascio: > 08/27/09 08:11:00 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dx4win mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. 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