Hi Rick,
You sir are also entitled to your opinion. I stand by my comment that it's
"Not Ready for Prime Time". Your perception I was making a "Cheap Shot" is
off base and I will say it's certainly not my intent to take a "Cheap Shot"
at what I'm certain will be a fine piece of software.
I had seen the mention of the improvements and went to the ARRL link to
download a copy but found the announcement which I cut & pasted with
quotation marks into my message.
Please note the last sentence from the announcement:
"These defects have been corrected, but we must test the corrected version
before publicly releasing it. Expect the public release within the next
10
days."
Where I come from this is pretty much the same thing as saying it's "not
ready for prime time". I'm also confident in 10 days or so it will be.
You asked me to explain myself so I'll make this attempt; I'm an RF Engineer
for a worldwide wireless telephone and data service provider. As much as I
enjoy concentrating on the "RF" portion of my job it requires more and more
"Software" and less and less "Radio" these days. I am responsible for
software testing on both the networks and handsets, bleeding edge technology
I assure you. That said there's only so much of a good thing I can take.
When I come home after a big day of bug squashing I like to spend some time
with the family and maybe after helping with the homework and tossing the
baseball with my son I sometimes like to turn on the rig and talk to some
folks around the world. The last thing I want to do is another beta test,
haha! I leave the task to your very capable hands and the other hams who
like to tinker with software. To each his own - the bottom line for me when
it comes to ham radio software is I'd rather tinker with the hardware and
try to "work a new one" instead. Meanwhile I have the experience to
appreciate better than most what kind of brainpower, blood, sweat, & guts
goes into software development. I hope this gives you enough background on
my situation to believe I intended no malice and was not taking a cheap
shot.
So let me make it perfectly clear I am a big fan of DX4WIN, LOTW, & TQSL. I've
been using DX4WIN since around 1998 and it's the best, most solid logging
program around. Like anything else it has it's quirks but it's solid as a
rock which I appreciate. The same goes for LOTW & TQSL. The stability and
security make it the premier electronic QSL system others would do well to
emulate (there I go, probably stepping on toes again).
My hat's off to the development team and all the folks spending their time
and energy to get it ready for public release. Say maybe y'all could give me
a bit of help with getting VoLTE ready for prime time! For my sanity's sake
thank goodness there's still a tiny bit of radio at the end of all that high
powered IP....
Sincerely 73,
Joe W4WN - Amateur Radio Software E_N_D U_S_E_R Extraordinaire :-) Heck I
don't even load up Jim Reisert's stuff until everyone else has tried it out!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Murphy" <[email protected]>
To: "DX4WIN" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] New TQSL not ready for prime time
Joseph,
You're entitled to your opinion. However, to say it's "Not ready for prime
time" is incorrect, particularly for DX4WIN users.
The only serious problem found in 1.14 was for Mac users that are trying
to
upload duplicate QSOs to LoTW. None of the testers reported this problem
prior to the final release.
Please note that the major performance problems with LoTW several months
ago were caused almost entirely by people uploading massive logs
repeatedly, so this defect really shouldn't matter unless someone is
deliberately trying to deny service to other users. There's an easy
workaround for people running in to this problem on MacOS.
Of the other problems you mention, the invalid zone problem is already
fixed with no TQSL update needed. The command line problem isn't anything
normal users would run in to, and has no impact whatsoever on DX4WIN
users.
Actually, the Mac problem also has no impact for DX4WIN users, either.
So, sure, stay with what you have - you get no usable error messages when
certificate imports fail, you're allowed to upload QSOs with incorrect
zones without being warned, you can upload QSOs to Logbook as often as you
like, you can upload logs that'll get rejected by Logbook because your
certificate has expired, you can't upload directly to Logbook, and you'll
be allowed to upload using locations where there's no valid certificate
(which Logbook will reject). You won't be notified when the fixes for the
minor problems are available, and can't automatically update to fix any
defects.
If any of those problems are issues for you, there's an updated version of
TQSL available on the sourceforge site -
http://sourceforge.net/projects/trustedqsl/files/TrustedQSL/ - so please
give the update a try. We're doing what we can to improve the user
experience and appreciate constructive comments.
I'm having a hard time undestanding the point of your message. Please
explain.
(Apologies, but the team has spent a lot of personal time trying to make
TrustedQSL better. Taking cheap shots ticks me off, and this is a cheap
shot.)
-Rick
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Joseph Orsak <[email protected]> wrote:
I think I'll be waiting a good long while before trying the new Trusted
QSL:
"May 21, 2013: From the Trusted QSL software development team - We
announced last week that TQSL 1.14 would be available today (20 May
2013).
However, three defects were reported last week:
a.. Incorrect behavior when the user specifies the wrong ITU zone
b.. Incorrect behavior when TQSL is invoked via command line without
the
-l switch present
c.. Incorrect behavior when processing an ADIF file containing
duplicate
QSOs when TQSL is running on MacOS
These defects have been corrected, but we must test the corrected version
before publicly releasing it. Expect the public release within the next
10
days."
http://www.arrl.org/logbook-of-the-world
73,
Joe W4WN
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