I am using Windows XP Home.

73 de Tony,  KD4K

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tony Cash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ron
Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port


> And Tony what OS are you doing this in?
>
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Cash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ron Stordahl"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
>
>
> > I don't know about CW (but don't see what the difference would be except
> > speed)
> > I use a Comtrol USB to Serial port to key my RigBlaster via RTS which in
> > turn
> > keys the rig on and off for digital modes via Hamscope.
> > There are many other programs that will key my RigBlaster via the RTS
line
> > So if
> > DXBase would give us the option to use the RTS line to key CW, why could
> it
> > not
> > be done?
> >
> > 73 de Tony,  KD4K
> >
> > My Weather Page
> > http://home.adelphia.net/~tonycash/
> > My Ham Radio Page
> > http://home.adelphia.net/~tonycash/kd4k/radio.html
> > Sawnee Mountain (WB4GQX 147.15 +.600) Repeater Page
> > http://home.adelphia.net/~tonycash/sawnee/index.html
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> >
> >
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > We haven't explorered the internals of USB in too much detail, but as
we
> > > understand the USB standard, toggling leads like you can with a serial
> > port
> > > is not possible and the Window's drivers for USB ports do not allow
it.
> > So,
> > > if our "limited" exploration is correct, using a USB port direct will
> not
> > be
> > > an option for communicating with things like keying CW through a
> > > transistor/diode circuit, toggling PTT, etc....  unless somebody
invents
> > > drivers to allow lead access to a USB port.  But then that opens up
> > another
> > > can of worms... hihi.... since the design of operating systems is
> becoming
> > > more and more rigid about external control of communications ports in
> non
> > > standard ways.
> > >
> > > Time will tell.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ron Stordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here are some prices (from Byterunner)
> > > >
> > > > 2 port PCI serial card: $46.00
> > > > 4 port PCI serial card: $99.00
> > > > 8 port PCI serial card: $189.00
> > > >
> > > > The USB alternative:
> > > >
> > > > 1 USB to 1 Serial: $20.00
> > > > 1 USB to 2 Serial: $38.00
> > > > 1 USB to 4 Serial: $110.00
> > > >
> > > > So, although there is no USB to 8 serial device available that I am
> > aware
> > > > of, the prices via the USB route are about the same as PCI cards.
> > > >
> > > > While the Byterunner PCI cards do support DTR CW generation and
Baudot
> > > code
> > > > generation (with DTR push to talk), I would need some evidence that
> the
> > > USB
> > > > alternative would support those very limited (to hams) applications.
> > > >
> > > > BUT...USB is the future path of PC's.  Very compact PC's are being
> sold
> > > with
> > > > no user accessible slots at all.
> > > >
> > > > Courtny..when you say DXBase does not support a 'direct USB
interface'
> I
> > > am
> > > > guessing that you are talking about support for non standard things
> like
> > > > controlling individual lines (DTR for example).  Won't the operating
> > > system
> > > > allow these converters to look like conventional COM ports for
typical
> > > > communications use?  And as such wouldn't these USB to RS232 devices
> > work
> > > > for radio frequency control, rotor control, packet tnc, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Ron N5IN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:37 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Courtney,
> > > > > I must disagree with the statement that a USB to Serial HUB is a
> waste
> > > of
> > > > > computing power. I have need for more than 4 serial ports and to
> > > purchase
> > > > > serial port expander cards such as Rocketport is expensive and
> > requires
> > > > > computing power to operate. The USB to serial  HUB is a less
> expensive
> > > > > option. The serial interface in Windows does not seem to have a
> > standard
> > > > > that every manufacture or software developer  will follow. My hope
> is
> > > that
> > > > > DXBase will support USB in the future and get away from the
resource
> > > > > problems that hamper standard serial ports.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill  WA4OYH
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:05 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Use a USB to Serial hub and get multiple serial ports from one
USB
> > > port.
> > > > > > DXbase does not support a direct USB interface.  ( such a waste
of
> > > > > computer
> > > > > > resources to do so ).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Courtney
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it possible to control a 756PROII via the USB ports?  Thank
> > you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tom Neill K4XG
> > > > > > >
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