Neal is being polite - in my opinion... He will not say it but I think it is time for someone to say it and this seems like an appropriate time to do just that...
If there is another logging program that suits your needs ( The Unknown Typist ) then by all means you should forget about Dx Base and subscribe to that one -- it would appear that switching would save you a lot of anxious moments - Neal did go as far as to say if you have money coming to you he will give it back to you... I myself intend to ride it out and like Dave says -- if it all ended right now we still have one of the best if not the best logging program available with DxBase 2007.... enough said.... Jim [email protected] VE3CM ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "dxbase" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Dxbase] FW: DXBase - Comments on Status from my point of view > Takes testicles to type something like that and send it out :).. But on > the other hand if you look closely the the current version as far as my > needs go i say ... whats to fix :).. > Sure everything can be improved on but were not stuck with an outdated non > usable program are we ?.. As long as we can update the prefix database > were good to go.. > Ill be interested to see what Neal comes up with but im really not loosing > sleep over it as it seems the unknown typist is Hi Hi.. Bigger things to > worry about here.. Seems in doing my good Samaritan thing here 4 months > ago and turning in an unlicensed operator to the FCC I can no longer > operate my 2/440 equipment as someone is following me every where I go and > plugging my ears !.. This guy might be related to the unknown typist.. > Fruit cakes that need mental help ! > 73 guys.. It was good reading Hi Hi.. > Dave N8DC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Leith" <[email protected]> > To: "Neal Campbell" <[email protected]>, "Robert Raines" > <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 10:52:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] FW: DXBase - Comments on Status from my point of > view > > Nice response, Neal. You are a lot more reserved in it than I would have > been. I, too, am curious about this anonymous poster. Don't lose any > sleep. > > 73 > > Al, VE1AL > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 11:43 PM > To: Robert Raines > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] FW: DXBase - Comments on Status from my point of > view > > Hi Robert > > I honestly do not understand the level of emotional investment you display > in this but since you have raised the points, I will respond (as much as I > think appropriate). > > 1. This is a software program used in the enjoyment of a wonderful hobby. > I > love both the hobby (in so many aspects) as well as programming and > helping > out people. I have a real company to run with business customers and in > the > spare time that I have, I dedicate to (among other things) this hobby and > DXBase. The minute I feel this isn't fun and worthwhile, I will find some > way to have fun and write off the time and money I have spent as a > learning > opportunity. But this is fun! I am going to make sure it remains fun for > as > long as I can. > > 2. I am not aware of any software product that costs $59 which occupies a > mission-critical, guaranteed-deadline role in any business or service. I > make no claim nor do I want to participate with that type of implication. > If you need set schedules, penalties for delivery, etc. I can give you a > price for it but I really don't want to because it will start to be purely > a busiess and not fun. It will also be at least a 5 figure cost because it > will be displacing that amount of income from me (after all, this is a 1 > person company at this moment). Let me be clear: I will produce version > 10, actively work on it every day. But it will only go to beta when I like > it and will only ship when I like it. If your needs are greater than this, > then I have made a mistake in establishing expectations or we have a > misunderstanding. If I have made this expectation, give me some indication > of how I set that expectation (so I can correct it with others) and I can > discuss a refund. Everyone has a 30 day money back warranty so for those > who are in that time period, you do not even have to explain what I have > done to cause the misunderstanding, just ask for the refund. > > 3. I really do not want to come off as coming down on you, I am truly > pleased you care enough about the product and are disappointed its taking > me much longer to do things, because my business has greatly grown beyond > what I foresaw. In my last status note, I said I was actually cutting back > time on my income-producing activities to work more hours a day on it. I > paid money to Jack for the opportunity to be here and even having this > conversation. I am more invested in this than any of you could possibly be > and have much more to lose. > > 4. I admire, respect and value Joe's contribution and wisdom. He decided > to > discontinue activities against my desires and there isn't a particle of > friction from my side to his. If he has friction from his side to me, all > I > can say is I didn't intend any and would truly welcome him back in any > way. > Thats all I will ever say about this because its all I feel about it. Joe > isn't a guy who wants people to do much for him to show appreciation, so > its difficult to use normal business rewards to show appreciation. Short > of > me flying from Virginia to his house and camping on his yard, I just can't > be any clearer. > > 5. But, having said all of this, the situation is that I did spend good > money to buy DXBase and I am responsible for doing the best I can, given > these constraints, to have fun and make it an even greater program. > > 6. If my responses are too cute, point taken. But, they are my responses > and not given flippantly or without thought. I never worked for IBM but I > have been a professional, from programmer to designer to executive, in the > IT world for 34 years. If my style and manner upset you, its an honest > emotion and maybe you will find someone else that suits your needs better. > Not everyone is going to be your cup of tea! I personally am going to have > fun whether you are part of this or not. I honestly do not think that will > change. > > 7. You only signed on to this reflector this afternoon at 540PM EDT and > this is the only thing I can find you have ever sent to the internet via > Google. > Hotmail. like gmail, is considered one of those anonymous email services > in > that its hard to really know who is sending something. Seeing you don't > give a callsign and are a very recent contributor to the list, I just > wonder what your history, investment or even interest in me really is. Is > there another problem here? > > Come on guys, this isn't supposed to be like this. Get on the air, use DXB > 2007 and enjoy it while I do the same and work on the next release. If > this > doesn't suit your personal needs, I am sorry but that is for you to judge > what you should do, I am pretty certain on how I am going to proceed. Its > going to happen (unless I decide this really isn't an opportunity to have > fun) and it will happen when I decide its good enough to happen. > > > Neal Campbell > Abroham Neal Software > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER > > Amateur Radio: K3NC > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ > DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] Abroham Neal forums: > http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Robert Raines <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> You can think all you want, but we would all be dead if we were >> holding our breath. Don't give yourself that much credit yet..... >> >> *Score Card To Date* >> >> Releases - Zero >> >> Deadlines - None Published (and answers about dates are a little to > "cute" >> for my liking from a new owner. See the comment quoted at the end of >> this) >> >> Pre-release screen shots on the web site - Zero >> >> Programming Skills - Unknown >> >> Customer Service Skills - No warm and fuzzy here (See deadlines >> comment above among other things) >> >> Quality Assurance Testing - Unknown >> >> Loyal DXBase Customer Following - Starting to fade from lack of >> information (Are we riding a dark horse at this point?) >> >> Bonding with Joe (WA6AXE) who has developed dozens of reports and >> fixes for us - Seems to be a lot of friction there >> >> Support of other applications such as AXETTY, DxbPSK, Realtime LOTW, >> etc - Unknown >> >> And the list goes on......... >> >> *Immediate Turn Around Improvement Opportunities* >> >> Publish a page on your web site dedicated to DXBase that has links to: >> >> A project plan with target dates for each major part of the next >> release, up to and including a target date for the release. >> >> Screen shots of what you have done so far. Worse thing you could do >> is go blindly down a path and discover the users hate the interface >> you have developed on your first release. (This would be HUGE) >> >> Read your comments twice before you publish them. You may think they >> are "cute", a lot of us do not. >> >> Do you have others using the product in beta testing? Your log and >> contact volume may be a whole lot different from a contesters or true >> heavy-duty DXer. >> >> Include things like DxbPSK in the time lines so we can see if there >> are "bolt on" applications that we are using and are not yet included. >> >> *Closing Thoughts* >> >> There are a lot of IT professionals in your following, so comments >> like deadlines are hard to establish because of programming changes don't > cut it. >> >> You worked for IBM - Did they ever run a project like this????? >> >> >> I feel the flames coming, but sometimes the truth hurts........ >> >> >> >> >> Neal Campbell wrote: >> > I'm still here! >> > >> > I think the silence is everyone holding their breath for the next >> release! >> >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
