Here is my 2 cents for the discussion. I always bought the latest version of dxbase until they stopped coming out. Why not? The cost to an existing user was quite inexpensive compared to the other costs associated with our hobby and it was a way of helping to support Jack's efforts. Amateur radio is my hobby, not computers. I just want dxbase to be a tool to assist me in my amateur radio activity. I don't want to waste hours fooling around with keeping my program up-to-date. I use a number of other programs that check automatically for updates (Quicken, Roots Magic, MS Office, etc) and give me an option to update or not. For me that was always the one glaring omission in dxbase. So, if you can fix that in the next release, please do.
Larry [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: Neal Campbell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:27 PM > To: Rick Kourey > Cc: DXBase Reflector > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem > > One more thing: I will have it back up the current db before doing > anything > so you are not lost when the program messes up. > 73 > Neal Campbell > Abroham Neal Software > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER > > Amateur Radio: K3NC > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ > DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] > Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Neal Campbell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Rick > > > > I will give you the option of updating the DB manually or using an > updater > > and then give you the option of whether you want it to update > countries, > > prefix mapping, callsign mapping, etc. I am not going to complicate > it by > > trying to figure if you have manually changed things or not, if that > is your > > style then you should not have the updater manage that type of data > for you. > > > > Hopefully in v10 the updater will also detect and update the program > files > > for you so you do not need to download a separate program and run it! > We > > shall see on that. > > > > 73 > > Neal Campbell > > Abroham Neal Software > > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > > (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER > > > > Amateur Radio: K3NC > > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ > > DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] > > Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Rick Kourey > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Neal, > >> > >> I think you know there is a large population of DXBase users that do > not > >> want to get into the database to make country changes no matter how > easy it > >> is for some to do. I simply do not want to take on the risk of > corrupting > >> the country file when you make changes on your own. > >> > >> I was at ease using the country prefix macro's that Joe created and > had no > >> problems. I had even keyed in country prefix changes that Joe > provided very > >> early on that instructed me step-by-step what data to key-in and > where to > >> key it and I had no problems. > >> > >> Its the same debate as before and I am not sure what the solution > is. > >> Preferably, I want DXBase or any logging program to provide me with > the > >> necessary prefix changes as soon as they are available that I can > download > >> into my program and not worry about. > >> > >> If compromise cannot be reached, as an secondary alternative, if you > >> provided me clear step-by-step instruction on prefix changes, that > would be > >> acceptable and I would key them in. I just do not want to figure > out the > >> data that must be keyed on my own and then have to figure out where > to key > >> it. > >> > >> I always use your latest version of software to ensure compatibility > at > >> all levels. And I want all new program features available to me > whether I > >> need them immediately or not. In the past, up-grades were very > reasonably > >> priced in my opinion and I never skipped one. > >> > >> Rick Kourey (K4KL) > >> Marvin/Charlotte, NC > >> User of Windows DXBase since 1997 > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Campbell" > <[email protected]> > >> To: "Alan Leith" <[email protected]> > >> > >> Cc: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:38 AM > >> > >> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem > >> > >> > >> Hi Al > >>> > >>> So that puts you in the manual mode of maintenance and thats fine. > A lot > >>> of > >>> others do not want the hassle of adding things when they work an > >>> "unknown:" > >>> or incorrect entry so thats why we do this! > >>> > >>> 73 > >>> Neal Campbell > >>> Abroham Neal Software > >>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > >>> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER > >>> > >>> Amateur Radio: K3NC > >>> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ > >>> DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] > >>> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Alan Leith > <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Good grief, guys. I use 2006 and when I type in a prefix that is > not > >>>> already recognized I get an on-screen "reminder" of that. I > simply tell > >>>> the program to map (or not) the call to the prefix I have entered > on the > >>>> line in the log indicating prefix. A perfect example of this is > with > >>>> those > >>>> moronic "TO" calls that could be about anywhere there are French > >>>> possessions. All of this, to me at least, is a no-brainer. > >>>> > >>>> I can then go into the database and make the necessary "fine > tuning" > >>>> adjustments. > >>>> > >>>> I'm sorry, but I fail to see that this is a problem. While I do > add the > >>>> new country databases to my contest program, all changes I make in > >>>> DXbase > >>>> are done so manually. I did take advantage of several of Joe's > fixes > >>>> that > >>>> were designed to simplify things, yes, and Joe was there when I > made a > >>>> couple of goofball errors. But for the most part, I've been able > to > >>>> successfully manage my DXbase programs since the early 90s. > >>>> > >>>> It is my hope that the next version of my favourite logging > program will > >>>> incorporate some features that I don't already have. At this > time, I > >>>> don't > >>>> use any of the 2007 enhancements so it was not worth it to me to > >>>> upgrade. > >>>> If 20** adds full dual monitor capability and a few of the other > >>>> suggestions that have been made, I expect that I will upgrade to > it. > >>>> > >>>> Otherwise, I am perfectly comfortable with 2006. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 73 > >>>> > >>>> Al, VE1AL > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [email protected] > >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell > >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:10 PM > >>>> To: Bill Parry > >>>> Cc: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem > >>>> > >>>> I can make it simpler if the folks who maintain their old database > just > >>>> stick with that method and do not use the automatic update. From > >>>> previous > >>>> polling, I only heard from a couple of people who were actively > desiring > >>>> to > >>>> maintain their databases manually (especially if there was a > regular > >>>> update > >>>> mechanism). > >>>> > >>>> In this guise I would provide a mechanism so you can, for > instance, > >>>> choose > >>>> to update all of the data or one or more categories (call mapping, > >>>> prefix > >>>> mapping, prefixes, qsl managers, etc). > >>>> > >>>> I am considering just making it simple and making the granular > choices > >>>> at > >>>> that level instead of complicating things by tracking each > individual > >>>> entry > >>>> in the database on whether its been updated by the user or the > system! > >>>> > >>>> 73 > >>>> Neal Campbell > >>>> Abroham Neal Software > >>>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > >>>> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER > >>>> > >>>> Amateur Radio: K3NC > >>>> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ > >>>> DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] Abroham Neal > >>>> forums: > >>>> http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Bill Parry <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > Just curious Tim, why would you make a manual change that is > different > >>>> > from the accepted correct file? > >>>> > > >>>> > Bill W5VX > >>>> > > >>>> > -----Original Message----- > >>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: > >>>> > [email protected]] > >>>> > On Behalf Of N3XX > >>>> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:04 AM > >>>> > To: Neal Campbell > >>>> > Cc: [email protected] > >>>> > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem > >>>> > > >>>> > Sounds great as long as: > >>>> > > >>>> > 1. I can still make manual changes to the country prefixes > database or > >>>> > to specific callsigns at any time. > >>>> > > >>>> > 2. File update can't overwrite any manual changes I have made to > >>>> > either of the above. > >>>> > > >>>> > If these conditions can't be met, I still prefer to make my own > > > >>>> changes. > >>>> > > >>>> > 73, > >>>> > Tim - N3XX > >>>> > > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> > From: "Neal Campbell" <[email protected]> > >>>> > To: "Bill Parry" <[email protected]> > >>>> > Cc: <[email protected]> > >>>> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:48 PM > >>>> > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >I am working on an update function for dxb2007. I am > considering > >>>> > >making to be fed from my server so that all I would have to do > in > >>>> > >the future is change a file and ask you to rerun the DXB > update > >>>> > >program. Is this satisfactory (having to have an internet > connection > >>>> > >when running the utility)? > >>>> > > > >>>> > > I will make it so that if it finds the file that specifies the > >>>> > > update in the program folder, it will ask the user what he > wants to > >>>> > > do. > >>>> > > > >>>> > > 73 > >>>> > > Neal Campbell > >>>> > > Abroham Neal Software > >>>> > > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com > >>>> > > (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Amateur Radio: K3NC > >>>> > > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ > >>>> > > DXBase bug reports: email to [email protected] Abroham > Neal > >>>> > > forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Bill Parry > <[email protected]> > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > > > >>>> > >> I think one of the major drawbacks of DXBase has been the > >>>> > >> complexity of keeping the files current with regard to the > prefixes > >>>> and countries. > >>>> > >> Fortunately in the past we have had "sugar daddies" come up > with > >>>> > >> ways of doing this that wasn't too complicated. Currently we > are > >>>> > >> going to have some major changes in country status (PJ) and > changes > >>>> > >> with Russian prefixes. > >>>> > >> Hopefully we will have someone make an update that will make > these > >>>> > >> changes for us. (I am hoping that the new version of DXBase > will > >>>> > >> have an easier way of doing these updates.) The contesting > >>>> > >> programs (CT, Writelog, N1MM) use an update file that you > just > >>>> > >> download and install. I, of course, realize that DXBase is a > far > >>>> > >> more complicated system that takes into consideration the > >>>> > >> "historical" data as well as the current country status. The > >>>> > accurate > >>>> > >> identification of the station, both current and past, is a > critical > >>>> > >> function of any logging program, especially a top of the line > one > >>>> > >> like DXBase! > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> FYI, I like several other folks mentioned, use the QSLing > function > >>>> > >> of DXBase all the time. With a lot of help I was able to get > mine > >>>> > >> set up so that I just put my blank cards into the printer and > >>>> > >> DXBase prints my cards in alphabetical order. I wrap them up > and > >>>> > >> send to the bureau. This is worth a great deal to me. I wish > the > >>>> > >> design part of this were a little easier to use, but honestly > I > >>>> > >> don't think that you can make it simple enough for me. > >>>> > >> :-) > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> Bill W5VX > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> > ______________________________________________________________ > >>>> > >> Dxbase mailing list > >>>> > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > >>>> > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>> > >> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>>> > >> > >>>> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support > this > >>>> > >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>> > >> > >>>> > > ______________________________________________________________ > >>>> > > Dxbase mailing list > >>>> > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > >>>> > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>> > > Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>>> > > > >>>> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support > this > >>>> > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>> > > >>>> > ______________________________________________________________ > >>>> > Dxbase mailing list > >>>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > >>>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>> > Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>>> > > >>>> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > >>>> email > >>>> > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>> Dxbase mailing list > >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>>> > >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>>> Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>> Dxbase mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
