One of my biggest complaints about DX Base is the single master-window with
various child-windows, each with its own title bar. I, too tried CommCat and
I really like what Howard did in regard to allowing either look-and-feel.
Personally, I use two monitors on my shack computer and I'd like to be able
to have certain critical items on my left and a few on my right. For anybody
who's ever used a Mac, that style of window placement is basically what I'm
talking about.

I'm definitely hoping the logging window itself doesn't change but updates
to the overall look-and-feel of the program are sorely needed. We're about
to enter 2011 and in my opinion, a 1999 interface just doesn't cut it any
longer, especially if it's commercial software intended for the higher-end
of the market, which DX Base clearly is.

Looking forward to the screen shots!

-----------------------------------

Regards,

Peter,
W2IRT


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of George Harlem
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:16 AM
To: 'Neal Campbell'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] DXBase Desk Top Concept

Many of us like to experiment, that's why we're hams.  Some users may really
enjoy trying a new look-and-feel for DXbase 2011.  I side with those who
like the original version, but if you offer multiple screen displays in the
new version, please include "DXbase Classic" for us!

George W1EBI

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Rick Kourey
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 11:45 PM
To: Neal Campbell
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Dxbase] DXBase Desk Top Concept

Neal,

I am unable to visualize the screens you have proposed in your last email.
But one of the things a number of us has liked about DXBase 2007 is its
simpe GUI with all information being shown in different panes that come
together in one large desk top pane that fits on screen.  Please, please
don' t change this concept and have floating screens on top of each other
that fit nowhere.

I encourage you to continue to use the concept that Jack developed and that
is having the user select additional informational panes that are listed
under the "DX Info" screen (i.e. spots, messages, grey line etc.).  You
could add to this existing list and then place another choice of panes under
the "QSL Info" screen.

The point is everything really fits on the desk top and nothing is really
floating unless the user wants it this way.  I have other log programs where
the screens do not fit totally on the desk top and they float.  I will not
use these log programs since the floating screens often hide other pertinent
data and all I seem to do is move the screens around so I can see the data I
want.

Unfortunately if you have not designed the next generation screen set, what
I think I am reading in your comments is you are not very far along with its
feature design or programming.

Rick Kourey (K4KL)
Marvin/Charlotte, NC






Hi guys

Sri abt the absence on the list, my computer business is having one heck of
a final kick this month and I have been 7 S 12 for the last 3 weeks.

I can tell you that you will know when a beta test phase is imminent (and
its not). While there is a lot from the Updater that was snagged from the
beta, you could tell how slowly I turned the Updater around so its obvious I
am one incredibly slow programmer. What I thought would take 1-2 weeks took
2 months (for stealing time away from my business). Thats a factor of four
in case you missed my estimation talent.

I should not have put a deadline before and I won't make the mistake again.


I will take the suggestion of the gentlemen who ruffled my feathers a few
months ago, however, and publish some pictures of the user interface for
comment. There are 3 different philosophies on how the UI can look. One is
to merely break out  the current scheme which limits the information 'panes'
to residing within the overall program window. So, total floatable windows
on the desktop. Second is to make it look similar to, say, DM780 from Ham
Radio Deluxe's package where its one big window but the panes are
collapse-able and pin-able and usage of tabs for large displays.
Additionally, this approach lets you re-arrange the one big window to see
which panes you like in which side/corner of the window. The third is a
task/menu approach similar to the latest Microsoft Office. No 'ribbon' but
the tabbed menu approach. I have been doing a lot of work with Access 2010
and can tell you I really like the way it looks and feels.

Its hard to visualize these (its hard to describe them) so a few pictures
will help to judge your reactions.

So, no new dates but hopefully a bit more transparency into my progress.

73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394



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