You seem to have tied together two unrelated matters that have nothing to do with each other. I don't see any connection between the FCC policy you quote about special events in the USA and Scouting stations and the CEPT policy for identification by visiting amateurs in the United Kingdom.
There really is no issue to resolve. Log them anyway you wish. This discussion doesn't seem to have any point that can be resolved. Have a nice day. Larry W4RA From: Jim WA9YSD [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dxbase] FW: Re: M/callsign - What's With This? http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iSqWTZ0brWMJ:www.cosjwt .com/index.php%3Fa%3D26+/p+fcc+call+sign+use+for+portable+rules+location&cd= 6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com In an apparent attempt to mitigate gross volations at GOTA stations the ARRL has <http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2008/fd.html> "Rule 4.1.1.3. As per FCC rules, this station must have a valid control operator present if operating beyond the license privileges of the participant using the station." During Field Day the Control Operator must sign portable by appending /P to the callsign for code or say "Portable" after the call on Phone. FALSE The rules were changed some thirty years ago. You do not need to sign as portable for Field Day. I brought the radio and I am an Extra so all operators Extra or not have Extra privileges. FALSE Privileges travel with the control operator not the owner of the radio. See above... Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith. Jim K9TF/WA9YSD _____ From: Larry E Price <[email protected]> To: 'Fred Handscombe' <[email protected]>; 'Jim WA9YSD' <[email protected]>; 'DXBASE' <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: RE: [Dxbase] FW: Re: M/callsign - What's With This? ITU Radio regulation Article 19 requires that a legal call sign in the amateur service be formed with a numeral after the national identifier so there has to be one somewhere in the formulation. However, my problem with Jim's original post was his statement that somehow this "non-problem" was caused by "ARRL rules", although he did not state exactly what rule he was talking about. Larry W4RA > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Handscombe [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:42 PM > To: Jim WA9YSD; DXBASE > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] FW: Re: M/callsign - What's With This? > > Jim > > In which case the logging programmes are WRONG! > > /M has NEVER ever been a legal suffix to indicate a station is in > England > > M/ is legally required PREFIX (and only prefix) for vistors to England > operating under CEPT > > England, and other countries of the UK , have never had "call areas" so > a > numeral, however desirable for the logging programmes shortcomings is > not > required, is not legal to use either! > > This really is a fuss about nothing > > 1 - the OPERATOR should be in charge of his staion not the computer > > 2 - there were 2 stations using M/ calls I saw spotted over the > weekend. It > takes less than 30 seconds using DXBase to add these as full callsign > maps. > > One of those is really operating illegally as the use of M/ is intended > to > be a short term visitor (maybe CEPT says 1 month?) and he has lived in > England for a number of years. Maybe he really does go home each month > a > reset the clock? > > 73 Fred > G4BWP > > The M/ or /M for the most part most logging programs consider this to > be > England "G". > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 5/31/2011 Tested on: 5/31/2011 4:05:20 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 5/31/2011 Tested on: 5/31/2011 8:41:25 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
