Hey guys, You rarely see me on this reflector, but I monitor the traffic daily. Been a DXBase user since way back into the early DOS days and have never looked elsewhere for a general purpose logging program.
I will freely admit that the reason I have stuck with DXBase has been the added value of Joe as the tireless guru, always there to help those of us who need help. I so appreciate that and have recommended DXBase to many, not only because of the quality of the product but primarily because of the quality of the support from Joe. There are truly some annoying features in DXBase that have made me think about switching over the years but, with Joe around for support, I wasn't about to switch. I know that DXBase will never be the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for Neil, and it's tough to criticize a labor of love, but with Joe gone now I will guarantee that I will take a close look at what else is out there prior to upgrading my current version of DXBase. Bob W1RH ________________________________ From: "dxbase-requ...@mailman.qth.net" <dxbase-requ...@mailman.qth.net> To: dxbase@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:45 AM Subject: Dxbase Digest, Vol 97, Issue 6 Send Dxbase mailing list submissions to dxbase@mailman.qth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to dxbase-requ...@mailman.qth.net You can reach the person managing the list at dxbase-ow...@mailman.qth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Dxbase digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truly have had enough ... (KQ8M-1) 2. Re: Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... (Earl) 3. Re: Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... (GREG WILSON) 4. DXBase 2007 Version 1.10 released (Neal Campbell) 5. Re: Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... (Neal Campbell) 6. Re: Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... (Neal Campbell) 7. Re: Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truly have had enough ... (Neal Campbell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:10:37 -0400 From: "KQ8M-1" <k...@kq8m.net> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truly have had enough ... To: <dxbase@mailman.qth.net> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAO1a22vawWNAjzvnxegfqxXCgAAAEAAAAPyXtnaVMY9FuBAH3h8bU7EBAAAAAA==@KQ8M.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sorry to say but I am with Larry. Several days ago I sent an email to you, Neal, asking for a new license file as I needed my novice call added to export and do reports with and still have not heard a word. I understand your computer business is keeping you busy but then I am wondering if you should have taken on the DXBase development. Apparently you are too busy with your other endeavors which is your decision and no one is going to try to say you shouldn't but then to make the promises over and over tends to push people away. Yes, I am presently searching for an alternative logging program that will serve my needs. I have found a couple. I know I am a nobody but I just wanted to express my feelings on this matter. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -----Original Message----- From: dxbase-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dxbase-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry E Price Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:11 AM To: 'Neal Campbell'; 'Giuseppe Giunta - IT9VDQ'; dxbase@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... Neal - I only recall myself one other time that Joe retired and then returned and I know that was because of private problems in the health of a family member. More than four years ago I 'predicted' on the reflector that the future of dxbase was questionable after Jack stopped having a sales booth at Dayton. Many of my colleagues here were outspokenly critical of my comments. Then you rode in, bought the IP and everything was said to be rosy again. However, in the years that have gone by there has seemingly not been any progress, no booth at Dayton (although you said you were present 'working' another sales booth), no product development that we hams could see and except for the superior customer service offered by Joe not much activity: [like perhaps many others I once posted a problem I was having and was surprised by a personal telephone call from Joe to talk me through the solution, all at his expense]. So, like Joe (but without his intimate knowledge of the program), I too am probably gone because I simply don't have much confidence in the future of dxbase. 73 Larry W4RA > -----Original Message----- > From: Neal Campbell [mailto:nealk...@me.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:39 AM > To: 'Giuseppe Giunta - IT9VDQ'; dxbase@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough > ... > > Guys, > > I am indeed working on fixing the bug for CD Callbook lookups' bearing > calculation bug in the 2007 version. > > Joe has a long history on this reflector and I think we can all thank > him for his help. > > But, Joe also has a history of these announcements of leaving and > coming back (at least in my history with the list). I think this is the > third or fourth time. This incident that has caused Joe's latest "final > straw" was that some files he sent to be included in the new installer > were not included in the test version. > > The first time Joe "left forever" was that I had changed my mind about > what version of Access would be the new format for the v10 database > format. I decided to use Access 2000's library as I heard enough > comments that people could not find Access '97 anymore. This egregious > decision resulted in Joe leaving for 6 months, I believe. > > My usual response to these types of outbursts is to say nothing and I > probably should have taken my own advice this time, but when he sends > this type of note to the reflector it demands a response. This time is > my "final straw" with him. > > I will remember Joe for the time he has helped me and try to forget the > times he hasn't but its time to move on and get back to work on version > 1.10. I have truly moved on. > > 73 > Neal > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120509-1, 05/09/2012 Tested on: 5/10/2012 8:11:28 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com ______________________________________________________________ Dxbase mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Dxbase@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:21:03 -0500 From: Earl <n...@adxa.org> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... To: tneill1...@aol.com Cc: dxbase@mailman.qth.net, wa6...@hotmail.com Message-ID: <4fabc0bf.6050...@adxa.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Tom, I couldn't have said it better. Like many others I have been with DXBase since the early DOS years. But I would not still be using DXB except for the willingness and expertise of Joe to help one and all. Thanks Joe for all you have done for us. Maybe we will have an eyeball this year at Hamcom if you are planning to be there. 73 and Best Wishes. Earl N5ZM.. On 5/10/2012 2:54 AM, tneill1...@aol.com wrote: > Joe > > I sincerely regret that you are leaving the DXBase Family after all these > many years. It is because of your intense desire to provide technical > support to us masses of non-technical users that DXBase remains highly > popular. You have personally assisted me one-on-one on numerous occasions > for > which I am most grateful. I question the long term viability of DXBase > without your ongoing support. > > Thank you for your professional assistance over many years. > > 73 > > Tom Neill > K4XG > > > In a message dated 5/9/2012 10:29:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > wa6...@hotmail.com writes: > > > ALL: > > OK GUYS -- step-up-to-the-plate and someone better volunteer to HELP OUT > Neal -- > because I have truely had enough of this .... My patience is totally SHOT > and > life is damned well too short for all of this .. > > Neal is going to NEED help with the current DXbase2007 Version 1.10 ... > YES - he is > trying to make a ver 1.10 -- but, man - I tell you what -- I can only take > so much and > then I KNOW when it's time to throw in the towel .. > > Any of you who have enough patience -- give Neal some HELP ... because - > as of right now - > I am GONE .... YEP GONE !!! GOOD LUCK with Neal guys!! > > I am going to pull the plug on both reflectors and let this go down the > drain .. > > 73 Joe wa6axe > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- In every walk with nature, one receives far more than he seeks. John Muir.. ------------ Earl F. Smith - N5ZM PO Box 20065 White Hall, AR 71612-0065 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 07:27:47 -0600 From: GREG WILSON <n...@cableone.net> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... To: Neal Campbell <nealk...@me.com> Cc: dxbase@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <CAPf5GKQm=E3VtQjEEB7ja9-sOukT=7hs89crcpqy0gcvk64...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Neal -- Joe has been a wonderful asset -- helping people with individual DXBase issues, providing reports, providing automatic LotW interface, DXCC updates, etc. -- all of which YOU should have taken responsibility for. You've made lots of promises with no results and here it is mid 2012 and you haven't even gotten a new version of DXBase out -- since 2008.. You have all kinds of excuses about how the next version will be so much better because blah blah blah...but the next version never comes. I wish Jack had never sold it to you. Quite frankly, I'm at the point where I won't buy a new version of DXBase -- because in my opinion YOU are the problem. 73 de Greg-N4CC On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Neal Campbell <nealk...@me.com> wrote: > Guys, > > I am indeed working on fixing the bug for CD Callbook lookups' bearing > calculation bug in the 2007 version. > > Joe has a long history on this reflector and I think we can all thank him > for his help. > > But, Joe also has a history of these announcements of leaving and coming > back (at least in my history with the list). I think this is the third or > fourth time. This incident that has caused Joe's latest "final straw" was > that some files he sent to be included in the new installer were not > included in the test version. > > The first time Joe "left forever" was that I had changed my mind about what > version of Access would be the new format for the v10 database format. I > decided to use Access 2000's library as I heard enough comments that people > could not find Access '97 anymore. This egregious decision resulted in Joe > leaving for 6 months, I believe. > > My usual response to these types of outbursts is to say nothing and I > probably should have taken my own advice this time, but when he sends this > type of note to the reflector it demands a response. This time is my "final > straw" with him. > > I will remember Joe for the time he has helped me and try to forget the > times he hasn't but its time to move on and get back to work on version > 1.10. I have truly moved on. > > 73 > Neal > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:35:12 -0400 From: Neal Campbell <nealk...@me.com> Subject: [Dxbase] DXBase 2007 Version 1.10 released To: dxb...@yahoogroups.com, dxbase@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <fe8311c7-d705-401a-a07d-40c9f72fb...@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII The new version of DXB2007 is now released, version 1.10. It includes the latest reference data, latest rig definitions and the latest report files. It also fixes the bug resulting in erroneous headings coming from location data in CD Callbooks (there is no standard how they are represented so the location information is coming from normal DXBase routines). http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/DXB2007.zip 73 Neal ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:36:44 -0400 From: Neal Campbell <nealk...@me.com> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... To: dxb...@yahoogroups.com Cc: dxbase@mailman.qth.net, Joe WA6AXE <wa6...@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <fea54a46-d398-46d5-a1e3-670525062...@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Bye Bud, sorry to lose you! 73 Neal On May 10, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Harry Hovey wrote: > It's time to go. I have upgraded to every version of DXBase from 2000 on. > Ever since Jack gave DXBase up, I have had a strong feeling that we might be > facing failure and without Joe, I am sure that it is time to move on. So good > luck to those who stay. > > 73 Bud WF2B > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Joe WA6AXE <wa6...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > ALL: > > OK GUYS -- step-up-to-the-plate and someone better volunteer to HELP OUT Neal > -- > because I have truely had enough of this .... My patience is totally SHOT and > life is damned well too short for all of this .. > > Neal is going to NEED help with the current DXbase2007 Version 1.10 ... YES - > he is > trying to make a ver 1.10 -- but, man - I tell you what -- I can only take so > much and > then I KNOW when it's time to throw in the towel .. > > Any of you who have enough patience -- give Neal some HELP ... because - as > of right now - > I am GONE .... YEP GONE !!! GOOD LUCK with Neal guys!! > > I am going to pull the plug on both reflectors and let this go down the drain > .. > > 73 Joe wa6axe > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > -- > Bud Hovey > > __._,_.___ > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > Messages in this topic (2) > RECENT ACTIVITY: > Visit Your Group > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use > . > > __,_._,___ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:38:11 -0400 From: Neal Campbell <nealk...@me.com> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... To: GREG WILSON <n...@cableone.net> Cc: dxbase@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <716430e7-a992-4b92-9541-14fa84d70...@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Greg Everyone has their opinion and am sorry you came to this one but thanks for hanging in as long as you did! 73 On May 10, 2012, at 9:27 AM, GREG WILSON wrote: > Neal -- Joe has been a wonderful asset -- helping people with individual > DXBase issues, providing reports, providing automatic LotW interface, DXCC > updates, etc. -- all of which YOU should have taken responsibility for. > You've made lots of promises with no results and here it is mid 2012 and you > haven't even gotten a new version of DXBase out -- since 2008.. You have all > kinds of excuses about how the next version will be so much better because > blah blah blah...but the next version never comes. I wish Jack had never > sold it to you. Quite frankly, I'm at the point where I won't buy a new > version of DXBase -- because in my opinion YOU are the problem. 73 de > Greg-N4CC > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:39 AM, Neal Campbell <nealk...@me.com> wrote: > Guys, > > I am indeed working on fixing the bug for CD Callbook lookups' bearing > calculation bug in the 2007 version. > > Joe has a long history on this reflector and I think we can all thank him > for his help. > > But, Joe also has a history of these announcements of leaving and coming > back (at least in my history with the list). I think this is the third or > fourth time. This incident that has caused Joe's latest "final straw" was > that some files he sent to be included in the new installer were not > included in the test version. > > The first time Joe "left forever" was that I had changed my mind about what > version of Access would be the new format for the v10 database format. I > decided to use Access 2000's library as I heard enough comments that people > could not find Access '97 anymore. This egregious decision resulted in Joe > leaving for 6 months, I believe. > > My usual response to these types of outbursts is to say nothing and I > probably should have taken my own advice this time, but when he sends this > type of note to the reflector it demands a response. This time is my "final > straw" with him. > > I will remember Joe for the time he has helped me and try to forget the > times he hasn't but its time to move on and get back to work on version > 1.10. I have truly moved on. > > 73 > Neal > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Dxbase mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Dxbase@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 09:45:26 -0400 From: Neal Campbell <nealk...@me.com> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truly have had enough ... To: KQ8M-1 <k...@kq8m.net> Cc: dxbase@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <06d98e44-d8cd-4235-b1b3-1660f1814...@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Tim Sorry I missed your email. The license upgrade service is one that is free and I am happy to do as I have the time. I spend a lot of time each day with DXB support. I know you do not hear of it on the list but I connect to and support many DXB users each week, almost every dat. Its nothing I expect glory from, it comes with the territory. When I purchased this from Jack, DXB2007 was out with an established user base. Since then there has not been one single request for money from those people, only the ones who purchased a new DXB2007 license since then have provided any monetary renumeration to me since then. I admit to prioritizing my day based on health issues first, revenue second and learning third. Never have hid that fact which means that I do not promise 24 hour turn around on license modifications (although the great majority do come within that). Again, my apologies but I wanted to get my position clearly outlined so you can know how I deal with it. 73 Neal On May 10, 2012, at 9:10 AM, KQ8M-1 wrote: > Sorry to say but I am with Larry. Several days ago I sent an email to you, > Neal, asking for a new license file as I needed my novice call added to > export and do reports with and still have not heard a word. I understand > your computer business is keeping you busy but then I am wondering if you > should have taken on the DXBase development. Apparently you are too busy > with your other endeavors which is your decision and no one is going to try > to say you shouldn't but then to make the promises over and over tends to > push people away. > > Yes, I am presently searching for an alternative logging program that will > serve my needs. I have found a couple. > > I know I am a nobody but I just wanted to express my feelings on this > matter. > > 73, > Tim Herrick, KQ8M > Charter Member North Coast Contesters > k...@kq8m.com > > AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org > User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer > Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dxbase-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:dxbase-boun...@mailman.qth.net] > On Behalf Of Larry E Price > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:11 AM > To: 'Neal Campbell'; 'Giuseppe Giunta - IT9VDQ'; dxbase@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough ... > > Neal - I only recall myself one other time that Joe retired and then > returned and I know that was because of private problems in the health of a > family member. More than four years ago I 'predicted' on the reflector that > the future of dxbase was questionable after Jack stopped having a sales > booth at Dayton. Many of my colleagues here were outspokenly critical of my > comments. Then you rode in, bought the IP and everything was said to be > rosy again. > > However, in the years that have gone by there has seemingly not been any > progress, no booth at Dayton (although you said you were present 'working' > another sales booth), no product development that we hams could see and > except for the superior customer service offered by Joe not much activity: > [like perhaps many others I once posted a problem I was having and was > surprised by a personal telephone call from Joe to talk me through the > solution, all at his expense]. > > So, like Joe (but without his intimate knowledge of the program), I too am > probably gone because I simply don't have much confidence in the future of > dxbase. > > 73 > Larry > W4RA > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Neal Campbell [mailto:nealk...@me.com] >> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:39 AM >> To: 'Giuseppe Giunta - IT9VDQ'; dxbase@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Joe is now QRT - GONE - I truely have had enough >> ... >> >> Guys, >> >> I am indeed working on fixing the bug for CD Callbook lookups' bearing >> calculation bug in the 2007 version. >> >> Joe has a long history on this reflector and I think we can all thank >> him for his help. >> >> But, Joe also has a history of these announcements of leaving and >> coming back (at least in my history with the list). I think this is the >> third or fourth time. This incident that has caused Joe's latest "final >> straw" was that some files he sent to be included in the new installer >> were not included in the test version. >> >> The first time Joe "left forever" was that I had changed my mind about >> what version of Access would be the new format for the v10 database >> format. I decided to use Access 2000's library as I heard enough >> comments that people could not find Access '97 anymore. This egregious >> decision resulted in Joe leaving for 6 months, I believe. >> >> My usual response to these types of outbursts is to say nothing and I >> probably should have taken my own advice this time, but when he sends >> this type of note to the reflector it demands a response. This time is >> my "final straw" with him. >> >> I will remember Joe for the time he has helped me and try to forget the >> times he hasn't but its time to move on and get back to work on version >> 1.10. I have truly moved on. >> >> 73 >> Neal >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Dxbase mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dxbase >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Dxbase@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > --- > avast! 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