Of course sun will. THEY want to be the only one supplying Java. =)
Sounds like a Microsoft wannabe to me...
M.
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From: Robert Rainwater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 11:44 AM
To: DynAPI Development List
Subject: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things
Microsoft also stated there would be no Java support in IE 6.
Apparently, a
java plugin will have to be used. Of course, only if someone creates
one, which I'm sure Sun will do.
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// Robert Rainwater
On 2/23/2001, 5:04:50 PM EST, Doug wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI
current things":
> Actually, MS just paid Sun 20 million dollars to licence java for
their own
> use.
> I don't think we need to worry about there being no Java support in
IE6.
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> From: "Raymond Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things
>> The only thing that concerns me, is our friends over at Microsoft.
While
>> they were moving towards DOM compliance (around the time they ported
IE5
> to
>> the Macintosh) they took a hard left with IE5.5 when they decided
that war
>> with the Java/Unix camp was inevitable.
>>
>> I have a lot of concerns with the pending Whistler/IE6 combination,
> because
>> I am pretty sure it's going be a major paradigm shift for them/us
(think
>> zero support for client side Java). M$ is moving to align all their
>> products OS/Software around the .net strategy while at the same time
> pushing
>> the "disturbance factor" in other alternative platforms (hmmmm, this
> seems
>> to run like shit on my PC compared to 100% M$ products) as much as
they
> can
>> without flagging the Justice Department "to much".
>>
>> Additionally, the long awaited arrival of NS6 came and went without
so
> much
>> as a ripple of real impact. I think that good old Netscape finally
found
>> out how to align the bullet-filled cylinder of business blunders with
> their
>> head. NS6 is a dead alternative in the eyes of Joe Consumer. I
can't
> even
>> imagine AOL wrapping there consumer online service around this
browser
>> instead of IE (that they use now), unless they want to hand MSN
>> marketshare.
>>
>> In no way am I supporting an IE concentric approach. We just need to
be
>> aware that "shit is gonna hit the developer fan" in 3-7 months when
they
>> release Whistler. They have spent a billion dollars developing this
> release
>> with two goals in mind. Stunt the growth of Java and kill Linux as a
> viable
>> "consumer OS" alternative. By consumer OS I mean our average home PC
> user.
>>
>> A scary fact is that M$ has said they don't plan on releasing IE6 as
a
>> public beta. It's gonna release inside the Whistler OS update. Get
>> Whistler, get IE6. This means one thing. IE6 and Whistler are being
>> developed in tandem to create strategic havoc for the Java/Unix
camps.
>>
>> Javascript (the DynAPI foundation) will likely survive as a
cross-platform
>> language; it's to entrenched and strategically means little to M$'s
end
>> goals. We can :O) a bit here.
>>
>> This is why I don't want to spend a lot of time developing a Java
Applet
>> Client/Side I/O device for DynAPI2 Michael. I'm not even sure it
will be
>> supported with the new IE6. I think Java is going to be a
server-side
> tool
>> for awhile.
>>
>> In the end, basic DOM support with the DynAPI is probably the best
path.
>> But lets be smart (as we can be with limited knowledge) about how we
> enhance
>> that API with input/output shunts to the dynamic server/side world.
>>
>> Laters,
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
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