>> >So your point is that all advertising outlets, magazines/radio/TV/web,
>> >exist solely for the purpose of pushing more advertising. This isn't
>> >neccesarily true for *all* magazines, etc..., but let's go with it.
>> >
>> >Magazines, etc... exist for the sole purpose of advertising.
>> >
>> >You, and a few others, are rallying for e-gold to accept advertising.
>> >
>> >Then, e-gold would exist for the sole purpose of advertising.
>> >
>>
>> Nah, there's no logic there mate. "All greeks are liars.." etc.
>
>
>I was using you logic mate. You said...
>
>> > > magazines, like all media, are simply things that exist because of
>> > > advertising.
>
>If all media exists because of advertising, then if e-gold starts selling
>advertising space, e-gold will become another media outlet for
>advertising. Therefore, e-gold will exist because of advertising.
>
A implies B, does not imply that B implies A.
>If all media exists because of advertising,
It does...
>then if e-gold starts selling
>advertising space,
yes ...
> e-gold will become another media outlet for
>advertising.
No, it won't suddenly become a "media outlet".
NASA sold an ad on a rocket, it just did it to supplement it's
income. NASA has nothing to do with the media and did not "become a
media outlet"
Bananagold sells (or swaps for) ads on the front page. B.G. has
nothing to do with the media, I just did it because I like Paul, etc
and wanted to swap banners with them.
e-trade and the other online brokers sometimes sell small ads on
their web site to supplement (in a very small way) their (massive!)
income from their primary activities, and they have nothing to do
with "media", they do not become "media outlets" by doing so.
e-gold should (IMHO) allow discrete little ads on the spend page.
This would bring them a little income (I estimate ~$30,000 per annum
-- irrelevant), but it wouldn't mean e-gold "becomes a media outlet"
> Therefore, e-gold will exist because of advertising.
Not really.
It's just that the concept "selling ads on the spend page" will
(IMHO) boost the overall e-gold economy.
Similarly, say, "redesigning the web page" might boost e-gold. Or,
"suing Charles Evans" might boost e-gold. Or, "decreasing the Agio
percentage" might boost e-gold.
>
>> Re: e-gold, I just think there will appear some "e-gold related
>> enterprises", if, there some method to reach active egold users
>> appears.
>
>The only methods you have proposed involve turning e-gold into an
>advertising outlet.
It's this simple -- (as I said at the very start) I happen to know of
one or two "non-cottage" EREs, that would exist right now, if there
was some way to reach the current active users.
{Again, I don't mean "General Electric" sized ones, I'm talking about
silly little million-dollar-like ones.}
It's that simple. I happen to know of one or two "non-cottage" EREs,
that would exist right now, if there was some way to reach the
current active users.
That's all I'm saying.
>Large businesses
You're talking G.E. now?
> probably want to wait until they can
>know something else about e-gold other than "weren't they raided by the US
>Secret Service?" or "aren't they just used for money laundering?". This
>will come from
>
>
>> While there is NOT a method to reach active egold users, the current
>> situation will remain: there will be no EREs other than silly
>> cottage-industry ones like Bananagold.
>
>Silly cottage-industry businesses, and their customers, will form the
>large (i.e. millions),
Great, so there gets to be millions of e-gold users. Say, 15
million, all around the world.
Let's say, 5000 million active e-gols users.
I own bananagold.com -- I'm laughing!
But wait, there are still only 207 people subscribed to the e-gold list.
State, tell me, how to announce to the other 14,000,973 people that
they can "buy things at Amazon using e-gold" (TM!) at Banana?
How?
>stable (i.e. not using it just because they got $5
>for creating an account) user base that will greatly accentuate e-gold's
>innate qualities of non-repudiability, world-wide usage, and instant
>clearance.
>
>Another silly cottage industry would be an indepedently run advertising
>list aimed at the people who are serious users of e-gold.
But answer the following:
How would anyone know about this service?
It could exist right now, have been funded nicely with say $15,000 in
seed capital, have beautiful programming, graphics and marketing .....
.... and neither you, me nor Jim Ray would know about it.
Funnily enough, after this all came up, my mate Mike said exactly the
same thing to me: "should we spend a few grand on setting up such a
service?"
He just emailed me an hour ago! about that.
What would be the point -- state how anyone ... other than the people
on this mailing list ... could be told about it. How would the
announcement be made?
>This would
>target actual users of e-gold, not just people who want to get paid for
>the nothingness of receiving ad-based email. I still not seeing the net
>good of putting ads on the spend page. This could just be my aversion to
>being forced to view ads when I am not getting something for free.
Click here if you WISH TO SEE
ads on this spend page next
time you make an e-gold spend: [ ]
>
>
>> I was, pathetically, worrying about "mere" $1 million to $20 million
>> -like enterprises that might like to become involved with e-gold.
>
>Are you talking about already existing businesses, or brand-new ventures?
Well I'm talking about brand-new ventures. I don't see how it can be
anything else?
A new enterprise is a new enterprise.
>You keep using already existing businesses as references.
You're right, I shouldn't have used as examples REALLY big fortune 50
companies like WalMart, GE, etc.
I am talking regular companies like banks, online stock brokers, etc.
>An already
>existing business should have an already existing customer base. They can
>push e-gold on their existing customers.
>
Spoken like a statist! (Just joking.)
That's like a parody of marketing from the Simpson's -- Homer invents
some crazy invention (I think it was a make-up "gun" for women) and
his wife says "honey, no woman will want this" and Homer says "oh
Marge, they'll want what I tell them to!"
Anyway you're just thinking infinitely, spectacularly ahead of me.
You're thinking hundred billion dollar companies with billion dollar
marketing.
There are lots of people who want to reach the existing (and growing)
group of active e-gold users.
Say I think up some clever idea like a dating service or, oh, let's
say "an off-line data storage service, which you can pay for using
e-gold".
(That's not really a great consumer idea, but just the best example I
can think on on the spot.)
So we think up datagold.com (I just thought of that name :) ) and
that's our clever business plan, $30,000 to develop it, program,
design, let's go, datagold.com. We know there's 10,000 current
active e-gold users and we're way excited because there will probably
be 50,000 in just a few years. And, we'll be the leaders in the
offline storage for GBC field!
So we do all that .. and what happens?
We can announce this new enterprise to ....
... everyone on the e-gold mailing list.
Again: datagold.com may exist now, and neither you me nor Jim would
know. How would it be announced?
Again: buy.com may take e-gold right now, this minute, and neither
you me nor Jim would know. How would it be announced?
Again: datek.com may have set up an entire ECN that is
gram-denominated, and neither you me nor Jim would know. How would
it be announced?
Again: there may be a chessforgold.com service RIGHT NOW where one
can play chess online against opponents for egold. It might have
been working for months. Neither you me nor Jim would know. How
would it be announced?
>
>> >I don't think that Douglas sat down several years ago and thought "what's
>> >a new way to sell ads - Oh, I know, we'll create a gold backed currency".
>
>
>
>Viking Coder
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