Ryan asked me to resend this, please send replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
as the non-quoted words below are his, not mine. Thanks.
JMR

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On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 09:01:30AM -0400, James M. Ray wrote:
> 
> I must say, it's incredibly-cool they chose Havenco, and the games
> are a lot faster now. Even before doing this, the gold casino was the
> coolest casino on the web IMO, now it's that much better.

I can't comment on customers without their permission, but I am an avid
player of tgc too :)  (although I think funbonds are much more exciting
than traditional gambling)
> 
> >They have got to be one of the, if not *the*, most secure hosting facility
> >on the entire planet. Who else has their storage facility surrounded by 6
> >miles of ocean and guarded by 50mm anti-aircraft weaponry?
> ...

Our #1 advantage, of course, is that subpoena and other legal attacks don't
apply here, either.  We don't turn any servers over intact.  If someone 
presented a clear and present threat to our continued survival, and we
couldn't defend ourselves militarily, we would destroy the server and turn it
over, and optionally refund customer money.

We only appeal to legitimate people, though, because a criminal would just
take a stolen credit card and get an unreliable but untraceable server at
a traditional US hosting facility.  Offshore in general is only really
attractive to people who want to do things legally, just under different
laws or conditions.

> I've heard they've 'only' got .50 *caliber*. Don't get me wrong, Mr. Fifty
> deserves enormous respect, but a 50mm gun (if such exist) might have
> a range beyond six miles, and the UK government *might* find this a
> bit more "provocative" than the present SeaLand situation.

Yes.  A good deal of our security comes from our physical structure; with
24" concrete walls and 60' sheer face between it and the sea, you could
probably defend with a pair of boltcutters for ropes and some mylar sheets for 
helicopters.  Our equipment choices balance defense with not provoking
our neighbors (and cost; having seen pricelists for just about everything,
it makes network equipment look cheap...no wonder the global military budgets
are so high vs. other components)

Sealand has had experience with invasion and counterinvasion, and the people
who do our physical security are all incredibly competent ex-military
(generally older, and wiser, and also good at maintenance and marine
tasks).

Thanks,
Ryan
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