Dear Ben,

> There is no way for a merchant to avoid chargebacks if a 
> sale is done over the internet. 

There is no way to avoid all chargebacks, certainly. That
is true, however, whether the sale is done via Internet or
at a storefront.

> The credit card companies simply don't work that way. 

Correct.  Credit card merchant accounts are a pretty poor
deal for the merchants.  They pay 5% (more with Amex) and
a per item fee, plus a monthly fee, plus equipment rental
or software licenses, and any charges that are reversed get
sucked straight out of the merchant's bank account, no matter
how much damage that does to his business.  It can lead to
utter disaster.

So, why do merchants do it?  Quite simple: customers demand
it.  There is a huge amount of money available to merchants
who provide credit card services for the convenience of their
customers.

> The only way for a merchant to have protection (as when a 
> physically stolen card is used in a real world store) is by 
> having the supposed customer's signature and a swipe 
> impression of the card. 

Neither of these things protects against a stolen card.
All charges against a card that is reported stolen can be
reversed.  The merchant is screwed, unless he is paying too
much for insurance, in which case he has already been screwed
by the insurance vendor, and is a little less screwed by the
stolen credit card charges being reversed.

> All a credit card customer needs to do is dispute a charge, 
> and it will be reversed. 

Largely true.  That's true in the storefront world as well
as on the Internet.  However, it is much harder to dispute
some charges.  Try disputing charges with a major corporation
when you are just an individual, and you'll find that there
is an entirely different standard at play.

> As there is no real way of disputing it (short of somehow 
> getting the card holder to own-up to the charges) there is no 
> way for the merchant to reverse the claims.

There is no certainty that any appeal will be answered.  A
merchant can appeal any reversed charge, but it is a headache
and three kinds of hassle, and usually fails.

>If you can find some way around this there are literally tens of 
>thousands of merchants who have been burned through online and 
>telephone sales and would like details.

Yes.

There are, of course, ways to limit the risk to the merchant.

If you go to PlanetGold, I think you can find there an 
interview with Graham Kelly from some months ago.  In that
interview, Graham mentions a $20,000 credit card order for,
I seem to recall, evocash.  So, Graham sent a private 
investigator around to verify the card holder really placed
that order.  Or perhaps called the cardholder.  In any event,
Graham sees a trivial percentage of chargebacks, and he 
does accept credit card orders sometimes from some individuals
according to the interview.

Regards,

Jim 
 http://www.goldbarterholdings.com/


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