... >What I want point is that e-gold has often some strange attitude: >Putting balance limits on some accounts where people simply do not >WANT to tell about their address for "good reasons", and in the same >way, allowing massive scams as long as scammers simply pay for a "true >address" anywhere in the world (pay with e-gold :-) >Moreover, when a new e-gold account suddenly receives hundreds of >payments, from a website that is easily checkable, I think that it is >EASY to detect a scam !
e-gold does not take it upon itself to do this, absent a court order! > >And I am sure that e-gold has systems to detect such things on the Really? I'm not! Why would they do such things?!? Where in their account agreement does it mention "monitoring for lots of spends, so we can protect idiots from themselves"? How are you sure of something like this, anyway? Any actual evidence? >accounts. So, WHY doesn't e-gold simply lock any account, regarding >the nature of the website ? Censorship ? No, simply the right of a >commercial company to avoid beeing involvd in scams ! They do have a right of association clause, if that's what you mean. > >And what I want also show is that there are 2 different attitudes: One >regarding e-gold that "has all rights" and one regarding the >market-makers that are crucified as soon as they make the same thing >than e-gold (allowing scams). > ?? e-gold is a currency, exchangers do currency exchange. 2 different businesses, but e-gold behaves according to its seldom-read account user agreement...Currency exchanges are free to have their own policies. Some have, in the past, promoted scams, even when it was blatantly-obvious they were scams. Go read the list's archives if you doubt me... > >>>Moreover, when I see such "services" like e-told, that kindly promote > >JMR> Here's another issue, should they censor such people. ... > >Why don't you at e-gold put in the "Directory", these wonderful >"investment" programs ? because you have some kind of morality :) > Right of association, see seldom-read account user agreement. >E-told simply makes his money with advertizing for scams. > I guess so. He's not in the directory, either, is he?? Should he be censored for his economic ignorance when he's not a scammer himself (well, directly)? He's an amateur journalist who writes about questionable stuff, IMO. >Moreover, when I read the e-told letter that somebody kindly sends me, >when I see e-told redactors writing "This program is strange, the >admin stopped replying since 2 weeks"...It makes me think "So, this is >a scam, BUT others are not, because the admin still replies"! > >By allowing some admins to publish their "results" every day before >they disappear, e-told is DIRECTLY involved in their scams. > I don't get their letters, but that's certainly possible. If so, what should e-gold do about this person's speech? I want the folks who think the Earth is flat to use e-gold, I totally think the world is round, though. ... > >IMO anyway, I think that people should be adult, and if they loose >what they earned bybeeing stupid, well... That's their problem. > Agreed. So you'd do exactly what e-gold does, then?? >But so, no difference of treatment should be made between e-gold that >"isn't a cop" and market-makers that "aren't cops". And who both make >profits from the scammers :-) > Once again, the myth. Look, full time employees are EXPENSIVE! e-gold makes LOSSES on scams, they're UNPROFITABLE for it!! Why do you think I'm so welcoming & accommodating on this list? Hell, if they were honest I'd like them, but they're crooks. e-gold spend and storage fees are DWARFED by exchange profits made on scams, and we both know it! The problems all go to e-gold, the profits go to the scammers and exchanges friendly to scammers, and now e-gold gets accused of double-standards for relying on their seldom-read account user agreement consistently... There's an old Yiddish word for all this -- chutzpah! Do the math, e-gold's the loser on Ponzi schemes, every time. > >JMR> What, exactly, would you do to a "scam" like The Gold Casino? > >The Gold Casino is a scam ? I don't know this Gold Casino, but I guess >that it is a ..casino, right ? > >Casinos are games where people know that they can win and loose. As >far as I know, nobody in casino promises only earnings. > Exactly. TGC isn't a scam, IMO (but who knows!). What I'm trying to convey is that unlike you seem to think, there are shades of grey in all this. Black and white would be obvious scams like OSgold, but a lot of stuff out there is on the edge of legitimate, IMO. Should e-gold try to kill JP's 1MDC, for example? He's awfully secretive, you know, and he pays that storage fee. Suspicious guy, eh? ;) >Morevoer, HYIPS claim to INVEST the money, despite they invest >nothing, and use it for their own needs. There is treachery here too. Yep. Guess what, though...None of the idiots complain until AFTER the criminals run, and e-gold can't proactively protect idiots, even if they wanted to! (I'm glad they don't, frankly! Evolution in action.) All the idiots want is a bunch of greater-fools, it seems. Nobody really thinks he's "investing" on a Geocities site, anyway. >Casinos announce some games, and users have some games. They have what >they pay for. > > >JMR> Remember, many of these couch themselves in the terminology of >JMR> games, not investing. > > >No, most of them claim to invest in some markets, etc. I don't speak No, a lot of them claim to invest in other scams, believe it or not. They may not be all that bright, but some of them *are* honest to their prospective victims about all the stupidity...Additionally, in this very thread we've seen presumably-legitimate explanations for very high returns (not that I'd want to risk some of them!). Do you have any idea how many shades of grey there are? I don't. >here about lotteries or other GAMES, that are GAMES and are really not >scams. > I've seen plenty of 'em couch themselves in "game" terms, too. I see a lot of this stuff because I deliberately get spam. I'd say the minority these days say 'invest' and the majority say 'game.' JMR PS Guys, you're takin' after US journalists! I don't OWN any .45s! (I have some .45 ammo because .45s are quite common, but I use other calibers for target and self-defense stuff.) --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
