Bernhard, reason is easy, nobody gets paid for e4 tools work and a release creates additional work.
I personally prefer to spend my (non paid time) on e4 and platform code work. Tycho and SWTBot follow the same pattern, they are also in incubation AFAIK. Best regards, Lars Am 25.07.2014 17:12 schrieb "Bernhard Steppan" <[email protected]>: > Hi Olivier, > > Thanks for your remarks. I fully agree. > > It's really hard to convince other developers from the e4 platform with e4 > tools v0.16 that are still in incubation. I don't have an answer why the e4 > tools are not part of the Eclipse IDE. My suggestion is to integrate the e4 > tools seamless into the IDE. > > Best, > Bernhard > > Am 25.07.2014 um 13:14 schrieb Olivier Prouvost: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am on holidays and cannot test the new release... > > > > Some remarks anyway : > > > > As tom said, I think the dialogs/windows node is really confusing and > dialogs are not usable as it is today. It would be really interesting to > start a new discussion on this topic as soon as possible to find together > an operational and efficient solution. It should probably not appear as it > is now in the stable version.. > > > > Another remark concerns the release number .. Are the e4 platform and > tools always considered as incubation projects ? In this case industry will > not adopt it easily.. It is really the moment to have a 1.0 e4 tools > version. I know it is psychological but it is important. > > > > For input parts I don ´t remeber the discussion which led to their > deprecation. But AFAIK it would be possible to find them by annotation > analysis (input part is a part having a method @Persist) ? This could be a > new api on partservice to get them ? > > > > Regards > > Olivier > > > > > > Le 25 juil. 2014 à 12:58, Sopot Çela <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > >> I did some testing and I think we can 'release' this. We can address > Tom's concerns along the way. I tested also the live editor and did not > notice any freezing. > >> > >> Sopot > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Schindl < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> The editor currently allows to add dialogs & wizards who are provisional > >> APIs, shouldn't the tooling show this to the user? > >> > >> Same goes for InputPart which is marked as deprecated - although I voted > >> against that deprecation - and should be shown like this! > >> > >> I also just fixed a minor problem with CompositePart part which now > >> allows you to set the title, icon, ... . > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> On 23.07.14 18:00, Lars Vogel wrote: > >> > It is not yet solved, but Steven found a workaround. I recently > noticed > >> > that keybinding for cut and paste are also not working. I think we > need > >> > to fix that least the keybinding thing. I plan to look at that next > week > >> > (if no one else fixes it before that). > >> > > >> > Best regards, Lars > >> > > >> > > >> > 2014-07-22 15:59 GMT+02:00 Paul Webster <[email protected] > >> > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Lars Vogel <[email protected] > >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I gave the e4 tools a quick test and if I open the "Live model > >> > editor" the IDE freezes (reacts very slowly). Can someone > retest? > >> > > >> > Bug report: > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=439511 > >> > I think we should wait with publishing the tools to the market > >> > place until this is fixed. > >> > > >> > > >> > What's the status of this? It's holding up our 0.16 stable > checkpoint. > >> > > >> > Later, > >> > Paul > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Paul Webster > >> > Hi floor. 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