well, that's one of the benefits of the oprn ARI - you can always modify the existing wizards to suit your needs (btw, you are right about "...no one creates Factories and Singletons often enough to allow this to save them any time...")
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bryan Young Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 7:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Eap-features] EJB wizard I actually liked the patterns in Together a lot. Although no one creates Factories and Singletons often enough to allow this to save them any time, it was very useful for much simpler code generation such as adding accessor methods for properties and stubbing implementation. One thing I didn't like about the patterns in Together: They don't allow the user to specify the implementation. Most patterns can be applied in many different ways. Most of the time, they just chose the first in the Gof book and ignored the rest. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Majewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: RE: [Eap-features] EJB wizard > heh... > > I was once in a Design Patterns seminar with someone who was using TogetherJ > as their IDE ( This was in April - I was using IntelliJ and making converts > left and right). One of our projects was to design a piece of functionality > using the patterns we had discussed that day. They quickly went to their > design patterns wizard and voila! they had their code... > > They couldn't explain how it worked and why all those abstract > implementations of interfaces were neccesary, but by gum they had their > code! > > Brian Majewski > Systems Architect > Chrome Systems Corporation > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > PHONE: +1-503-963-6410 / +1-800-936-8906 > FAX: +1-503-963-6312 > www.chrome.com > > > Notice: This e-mail transmission and/or the attachments accompanying it may > contain confidential information belonging to the sender or Chrome Systems > Corporation. The information is only for the use of the intended recipient. > If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender > immediately by reply e-mail, and then destroy all copies of the > transmission. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dimiter Dimitrov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 5:49 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [Eap-features] EJB wizard > > > btw I like the pattern application wizards in Together - they realy save > time (ok, stone me :) I think that later IntelliJ guys could publish an open > API for external tools interacting with the already parsed source tree. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benoit Menendez > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Eap-features] EJB wizard > > > Who cares about wizards when you have a great ant integration... Just select > the deploy target in your ant script... This is way more flexible... > > Benoit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wangjammer5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Eap-features] EJB wizard > > > > > > > That's the general consensus here, except for the odd netbeans/jbuilder > > > reject who tries to turn IDEA into those bloated tools! (just > > > kidding...mostly) > > > > Plus in my experience, wizards are great for newbies but in the end you > > always have to throw them away if you get into any kind of advanced > > program or need to actually UNDERSTAND what you are doing ;-) > > > > I've seen so many "programmers" who can't do anything without their > > wizards. It makes me fear for the quality of software all over the world > > :( > > > > ...one example - a guy was taking over from me on a complicated and messy > > Delphi contract (thankfully patching other peoples' Delphi is in my past > > now <g>) and I was showing him around the code during the cross-over > > period. I was talking about the virtual methods used in some of the > > classes... and he asked me what a virtual method was. I tried to > > explain... but his eyes glazed over and I saw he didn't understand a > > thing about OO. That software was doomed! I could see on his CV that he > > used Wizards and code helpers for everything (he mentioned them all in > > his CV) and warned the guys but did they listen? > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Eap-features mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features > > > _______________________________________________ > Eap-features mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features > > _______________________________________________ > Eap-features mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features > > _______________________________________________ > Eap-features mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features _______________________________________________ Eap-features mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features _______________________________________________ Eap-features mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.intellij.com/mailman/listinfo/eap-features
