Hello Kirk,

I generally agree with you. It would be _cool_, if IDEA could generate a JAR file via 
wizard -- especially for users who aren't experienced with ANT. But it's not really 
necessary, because creating an JAR file isn't a task, that you do one time in a half 
year -- you do it more often and therefor it's predestinated for a script like ANT.

And, last but not least, we love IDEA, because it's a famous, lightweight IDE, that 
assists us in writing (good) code. It is not and should not become a point-'n-click 
IDE for Java-babies.

Mike


>Subject: Re: [Eap-list] Feature request: jar tool
>   From: Kirk Woll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:23:29 -0800
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>What strikes me about this feature request and those like it is not that 
>they're a bad idea and therefore a waste of time.  Rather, they are 
>ideas that are not good uses of the IntelliJ team's time. However, ALL 
>of these issues, and each and every one like them would be rendered 
>completely moot by an open API.   Personally I think it a fine notion to 
>have my IDE know how to make a JAR file without my having to go learn 
>some external tool. However, I agree with most of you that IntelliJ 
>should not waste their time with that.  I am as yet unclear on the 
>future plans with respect to the open API.  Last I heard they were 
>focusing on allowing arbitrary version control integration. That 
>interests me not even a tiny bit.  Has there been any (recent) statement 
>of intent with respect to this?
>
>Kirk
>
>Hani Suleiman wrote:
>
>>We could keep walking down that path, I'd like IDEA to have a J2EE
>>deployment wizard too, and to generate .ear and .war files for me. I'd also
>>like it to automatically create the appropriate manifests. I wouldn't object
>>to it IDEA also doing this all in the background, and monitoring what I do
>>and deciding it's time for me to make a jar file.
>>
>>On 20/3/02 4:58 pm, "Patrick M. Ansari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Personally, I also think this is a good idea. There are some cases where
>>>you don't want to use Ant but still want to create Jars.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Patrick M. Ansari
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>On Behalf Of Slomcenski, Robert J
>>>Sent: 20 March 2002 21:35
>>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>>Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Feature request: jar tool
>>>
>>>I can use ANT to generate a jar file and I can use ANT to generate
>>>javadoc, too.
>>>
>>>It just seems inconsistent for IDEA to have a specific menu option
>>>for "Generate javadoc..." but not one for "Generate jar...".
>>>
>>>Bob Slomcenski
>>>
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>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Patrick M. Ansari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 12:12 PM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: RE: [Eap-list] Feature request: jar tool
>>>
>>>
>>>Just use ANT to build the JARs
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Patrick M. Ansari
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>On Behalf Of Slomcenski, Robert J
>>>Sent: 20 March 2002 16:39
>>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>>>Subject: [Eap-list] Feature request: jar tool
>>>
>>>I am new to IDEA and am just getting familiar with the environment.
>>>Is there an option, external tool, or other method to invoke the
>>>jar command?
>>>IDEA has a javadoc builder, but seems to be lacking a jar builder.
>>>
>>>Bob Slomcenski
>>>
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