I don’t dispute the value of ILE RPG
and CGI. I do all my new development in that arena whenever possible but you
have clients out there that have no compelling business reason to go ILE or
graphical (i.e. only do minor accounting and invoicing on the machine). You can’t
force an upgrade on people like that. Will they eventually upgrade, yes. Will
it happen today, no. Tomorrow, not likely. You have to give your clients what
they want and whenever possible educate them about the possibilities. When they
are paying the bill you can’t just have them upgrade because you want all
the latest tools and such.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giovanni B. Perotti
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006
2:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Easy400Group] ILE
RPG or RPG/400 - Some words from Giovanni
May I also add some words on
this subject.
In Italy we had some IBM Business Partners keeping
their customers on S/36
environment.
All of a sudden, their customers moved to IBM
competitors, and those IBM
B/Ps gave pink slips to all their staffs.
We still have people here trying to maintain their
customers in the darkness
of Middle Ages.
We understand those situations. They would not
spend a penny for renewing
their skills, they would rather maintain their
customers on 3rd hand
computers, running old OS/400 glories.
This they do because they do try to keep their
customers in total ignorance
of today IT techniques.
Of course they do it for some undue profit.
Jon (Paris), and others.
We cannot save the world, we cannot take care of
such situations.
History will take care of them.
They are planning for the death of their
customers, and they will be buried
along with their victims.
Fun is that they do not even understand how next
this is.
So long, RPG II, RPG400, S/36 profets, and all the
like.
We shall not spend other words for you.
Giovanni
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From: "markcgi2000"
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:34 PM
Subject: [Easy400Group] Re: ILE RPG or RPG/400
>
> Yes, this is a strength of the iSeries.
However, it is also one of its
> greatest weaknesses. Because we can run old
code virtually unchanged
> many iSeries developers have not updated
their skill sets. This means
> that companies at times will move off of the
iSeries to get more current
> software. Coding in RPG II and OCL is mostly
relegated to maintenance
> and not new development. ISeries developers
should be utilizing more
> advanced skills to keep both the platform and
their futures vibrant.
>
>
> --- In [email protected],
"Chet " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have clients that are hanging onto RPG
II and OCL tooth and nail. It
>> meets there current business needs so who
am I to tell them otherwise.
>> There are more out there than most
realize which is why all of us will
>> always have plenty of work.
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Jon Paris
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:29 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [Easy400Group] ILE RPG or
RPG/400
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry Chet - but my experience, IBM's and
most users I have talked to
> says
>> that RPG IV outperforms RPG III under
most all circumstances. Plus it
> has
>> optimization options (including execution
profiling based
> optimization) that
>> are in a different league to that
available for RPG III.
>>
>>
>>
>> As to your " ... have no need ...
" - do you really think there is
> anybody
>> in that category? Admittedly there are
shops who _believe_ that. The
>> realization that such features really
were needed after all comes at
> about
>> the same time that the staff are informed
that the iSeries is being
>> replaced!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon Paris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Chet
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:49 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [Easy400Group] ILE RPG or
RPG/400
>>
>> Depends on the environment, if strictly
an RPG shop and have no need
> for the
>> additional features then go that route
"strictly" from a performance
> stand
>> point. But if you shop needs to do CGI,
and utilize all the features
> plus
>> modular coding ability of ILE then that
is the route to go. Personal
>> recommendation is ILE, too many goodies
to pass up so why live in the
> past.
>>
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