On 18/03/16 16:00, Pablo Escobar Lopez wrote:


2016-03-18 15:11 GMT+01:00 Fotis Georgatos <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:


    ie. we might be able to stop most of the network activity in
    user-space, w/out requiring blockage at root level (there are some
    caveats, agreed),
    by rewiring certain calls. thoughts?

Not sure if adding and external dependency to easybuild and using LD_PRELOAD is a good idea. I think Kenneth was looking at a solution using python but I don't remember the details. I think he should decide about this.

What I had in mind is specifying a different (broken) PyPI URL, cfr. 'index-url' at https://pythonhosted.org/setuptools/easy_install.html#command-line-options

Of course, this approach is very specific to installing Python packages...



K.

    F.

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    as Alan suggests I think python bundle is the way to go for what
    you want.

    I would also suggest that if you want to assure reproducibility
    you should test your bundles in a machine without internet access.
    Some python libraries download extra dependencies during
    installation so if you run your easyconfig in a machine with
    internet access you won't notice which extra deps have been
    downloaded during the installation and if you run the same
    easyconfig in the future maybe different versions of the
    dependencies can be downloaded. If you try the easyconfig without
    internet access you would get an error in case any extra
    dependency needs to be download so you can check the error log and
    add the missing dependency to your bundle. The only procedure I
    know now to address this issue is by try&error in a machine
    without internet access. Some development is being done to address
    this in easybuild in a cleaner way but nothing available in the
    main easybuild release yet as far as I know.

    regards,
    Pablo.

    2016-03-18 14:42 GMT+01:00 [email protected]
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    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        Thanks, Alan,

        I'll look into this following your numba example.

        I'm just wondering, shouldn't for example the numpy version be
        part of
        the toolchain definition?  Libraries like pandas and scipy use
        the numpy
        C stuff, if I remember correctly, so that a pandas build with
        numpy 1.9
        is different from a pandas build with numpy 1.10.  Not sure if
        numba
        from your example should also suffer from this or not.

        Cheers,
          Andreas.



        Alan O'Cais writes:

        > Dear Andreas,
        >
        > I was actually going to look into this soon. What you are
        describing (I think) is a Python package bundle for the SciPy
        Stack<http://www.scipy.org/stackspec.html>. An example of what
        that might look like is
        
>https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild-easyconfigs/blob/develop/easybuild/easyconfigs/n/numba/numba-0.22.1-intel-2015b-Python-2.7.11.eb
        > The Python dependency is given by the version suffix and the
        blas dependency is provided by the toolchain itself (a
        toolchain is compiler+mpi+blas/lapack/fftw)
        >
        > You could work on this yourself based on that example and
        I'd be happy to help if you run into issues.
        >
        > Alan
        >
        > On 18 March 2016 at 14:20, <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
        > I recently stumbled across easybuild, it's an amazing piece of
        > software -- thanks for making this available!
        >
        > I'm wondering if there is any documentation / hints
        available for
        > managing different version of the Python scientific
        toolstack with
        > easybuild.  I'm thinking of toolchains like
        > "py27-np19-sp016-pd017-openblas" -- you get my point. So
        basically I'm
        > looking at using easybuild as a replacement for virtualenvs
        / Anaconda
        > envs.
        >
        > Is there anything I need to consider for this use case?
        >
        > Cheers,
        >   Andreas.
        >
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-- Pablo Escobar López
    HPC systems engineer
    sciCORE, University of Basel
    SIB Swiss Institute of Bioinformatics
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Pablo Escobar López
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sciCORE, University of Basel
SIB Swiss Institute of Bioinformatics
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