wouldn't make sense if compiler modules provide $CC $CXX and Co. by
default?



2016-10-22 23:59 GMT+02:00 Alan O'Cais <[email protected]>:

> Maybe I'm misunderstanding but that is pretty much exactly why I 'created'
> the trivial buildenv easyblock. The users just load the module that gets
> created  and they can simply use $CC and friends in their build processes,
> making switching toolchains very straightforward.
>
> On 22 Oct 2016 4:09 p.m., "Vanzo, Davide" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> From a user perspective it would be more interesting to have this option
>> under Lmod than EB. The end user is most likely to interact only with the
>> environment modules manager than EB directly. The idea would be that the
>> user loads all the modules he/she needs according to a specific
>> toolchain and can get all the linking flags by calling something like:
>>
>> $module -L
>>
>> In this way the user can use command substitution directly into
>> Makefiles. More importantly, this should also take into account ordering
>> the lib flags accordingly since sometimes order is essential for
>> successful linking.
>> That is something that we discussed internally since this functionality
>> is provided by our current modules manager (although in a very primitive
>> way) and would be lost when transitioning to Lmod.
>>
>> --
>> Davide Vanzo, PhD
>> Application Developer
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor of Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering
>> Advanced Computing Center for Research and Education (ACCRE)
>> Vanderbilt University - Hill Center 201
>> (615)-875-9137
>> www.accre.vanderbilt.edu
>>
>> On Oct 22 2016, at 8:12 am, Jack Perdue <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/22/2016 02:47 AM, Kenneth Hoste wrote:
>>> > Hi Jack,
>>> >
>>> > On 21/10/16 02:46, Jack Perdue wrote:
>>> >> Howdy EB gods (Ken and crew),
>>> >>
>>> >> So EB, puts some useful environment settings in
>>> >> <app>/<version>/easybuild/<app>*-devel
>>> >>
>>> >> Is there a way to utilize those variables when not
>>> >> using EB?
>>> >>
>>> >> For example, I assume that if a user loads icc that they
>>> >> more than likely would like CC=icc (CFLAGS is a different
>>> >> matter).
>>> >>
>>> >> But EB doesn't do that now (probably for good reason).
>>> >
>>> > It doesn't right now, no, but would it be interesting to add an option
>>> > to include statements to define the build environment as used by
>>> > EasyBuild in the toolchain module?
>>> >
>>> > You can argue for it both ways, it's just a matter of what EasyBuild
>>> > should do by default (and we currently have a window of opportunity to
>>> > change the default behavior with EasyBuild 3.0 being the next release).
>>>
>>> I'd definitely like to see it as an option. For testing,
>>> --dump-env-script on
>>> ImageMagick-7.0.3-2-intel-2016b.eb would be a good start. I'd like to
>>> see _everything_ set in that .env instead set in the modules first... as
>>> just a
>>> start.
>>>
>>> Beyond that, I'd also like to see a line with -lX11 -lXabc -lX123 so I
>>> don't need to
>>> remember the name of all the X11 libs.
>>>
>>> But it should be a site (or user) selectable option (I could see some
>>> people not wanting such things).
>>>
>>>
>>> jack (who won't be making it to Utah but does have new cluster coming
>>> online
>>>          and has the ability to provide beer through his agents)
>>>
>>
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