Hi Chris,

I see Ken responded with the one liner of the mission statement.  The e4 
presentation at EclipseCon should also provide a sense of the priorities. 
But I agree, when you go to http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4 there needs to be a 
"What is e4" section.  Since one of our big goals for e4 is community 
participation, it's a bit difficult to expect that if nobody understands 
what it is!  Then again, what it is will be shaped by the community so a 
bit of chicken and egg there.

Although the web gets lots of press because hey its cool that's only a 
small part of e4.  RCP indeed is very important, and there was much 
discussion at the summit on items such as DeclarativeUI/CSS/styling, 
scripting, simpler programming model ("the 20 things"), all the way down 
to resource model.  All of these have web implications but all are focused 
on the desktop foremost.

In any case you've provided important feedback that we need to work more 
on vision and communicating that.

Cheers,
Kevin




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Hi all,

I've been following this mailing list for a while and I'll be honest, I'm 
still not clear what E4 is trying to achieve at a high level though I can 
see there are lots of great ideas being bantered around, plus I've talked 
to a few of you about how E4 might share some goals with the Solstice 
platform that I developed for Arum Systems.

Today I read this article:
http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/05/e4-summit

The linked article implies that E4 is about making the IDE deployable over 
web and seems to be the perception that the community is starting to 
develop. 

I feel that this is certainly part of it, but to me it is more about 
giving RCP additional options for which platforms they can target, web 
being one of them.  The IDE is an RCP application after all, so showing 
that it can be deployed on the web is an obvious demonstration, but might 
be confusing the community slightly.

In addition to this E4 also seems to be about adding new features and 
rationalising the great features that have already been added to the 
Eclipse platform to date. 

The Vision page actually appears to answer some of the points I'm raising, 
but perhaps it needs a bit more visibility.  It would be good if someone 
could write a brief mission statement on the main E4 page and link to the 
Vision page for more information.  I'm not volunteering! =P

Any other thoughts?

Cheers,
Chris


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