Thanks Kevin.
My feeling was just that "Remote Workspaces" was unclear as a scope
item of its own. I'm ok with understanding it as related to the
Client/Server
split.
When we start shaping out the Flexible Resources theme more clearly,
we might also add some clarifications there as to what respect it might
be related or unrelated to remote workspaces.
I just wanted to avoid ending up with some scope written down in the
project proposal that nobody really cares for -- I do think that the
project
proposal should have some relation to the work that will eventually
be performed because there are owners for items.
But it looks like my fear is not relevant since you thought about
Client/Server when writing it down.
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
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Hi Martin,
As I recall it came out of the client/server split discussions
http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/ClientServer. You've hit on a lot of the
issues. Underlying all this of course is an assumption that with some
web based Eclipse UI I *will* still have a workspace on the server (v.s.
say SQL queries to a DB). Its a likely path of investigation.
> The answer to my question above likely plays a role in
planning the
> Flexible Resource theme, and in case there is no clear owner
I'd
> be in favor of getting rid of the Theme from the Scope.
I thought the purpose Scope section is to provide a shape to the
set of issues *someone* might work on in the e4 project. It was built
up from looking through the summit work area notes. I didn't interpret
it as each being a work area with distinct owners. I think that's an
organization issue internal to the project.
I'd be fine with us removing "Remote Workspaces" if we thought
it was out of scope, irrelevant, ambiguous, creating too much overlap
with an existing project, or just plain wrong because I misinterpreted
the topic discussions. If we remove it from the Scope though we're
saying nobody is going to be caring/working on it (not even in the
Flexible Resources work), its not our job on e4. If its just about
who-does-what, then we should decide that separately. Certainly at
present our problem isn't around too many groups wanting to tackle the
same problem :)
Hope the clarifies. Please let me know if you have a different
interpretation.
Regards,
Kevin
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[eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] "Remote workspaces" on E4 Project
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Hi all,
I just looked into the
http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Project_Proposal#Scope
<http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Project_Proposal#Scope>
and found something titled "Remote workspaces".
Does anybody have any more details about what this might mean,
and who would be caring for it?
It could involve a whole lot of very different subitems, like
* What about the Workspace when E4 is running as
client/server app?
* What about synchronous access and high latency in
EFS-shared remote resources?
* What about "linking" remote resources rather than
"including" them in order to optimize refresh on slow remote parts of
the workspace?
* What about access control and monitoring change in
remote workspaces?
* Should a notion of "Shadowing", or caching remote
resources with a local copy be part of the Platform?
The answer to my question above likely plays a role in planning
the
Flexible Resource theme, and in case there is no clear owner I'd
be in favor of getting rid of the Theme from the Scope.
Thanks,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
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