I'll certainly take a look at this. Doug.
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Konstantin Komissarchik
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> You don't really see faceted projects as an e4 story since you
expect it ought to be mainstream in the 3.x stream.
> I suppose for e4 it would make good sense for this to be an
integral part of the platform API, so that's your purpose
> for bring the issue up here. I agree natures are quite
poorly handled currently. They're hard or impossible to add
> or remove.
Exactly. I want to make progress on the 3.x stream, but I also
want to explore the possibility of making facets be a platform facility
for E4. Since the Faceted Project Framework would start out under
Technology, it will need to find a more permanent home at some point. A
sub-project beneath Eclipse Project or Tools Project are two of the
possibilities.
> It will be interesting to see more about the APIs involved...
There is an article on eclipse.org that would be a good way to
learn about the API from the perspective of facet author.
http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-BuildingProjectFacets/tutorial.h
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [eclipse-incubator-e4-dev] Filling the vacuum
Kosta,
I would expect a Poisson distribution
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distribution> to produce pretty
much the initial positing patterns we see, with the added assumption
that once a message is posted, a cascade of response messages typically
results. Hey, isn't poisson the French word for fish? I wouldn't read
in anything fishy beyond that...
You don't really see faceted projects as an e4 story since you
expect it ought to be mainstream in the 3.x stream. I suppose for e4 it
would make good sense for this to be an integral part of the platform
API, so that's your purpose for bring the issue up here. I agree
natures are quite poorly handled currently. They're hard or impossible
to add or remove. It will be interesting to see more about the APIs
involved...
Cheers,
Ed
Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
So what happened to all the activity on this list? It went from
a regular 20 messages a day down to 1 yesterday and none today.
Something is fishy here. It sounds like everyone got a day off and I
didn't get the memo. In the interest of filling the empty space and
since this was mentioned earlier on this list, I'd like to draw people's
attention to the declaration of the Faceted Project Framework project
[1]. The newsgroup [2] is live and is starting to get some traffic.
Folks on this mailing list might be particularly interested in [3] where
I answer the "why can't we just extend natures" question. In any case,
if you have questions about facets, are wondering if you have formed any
misconceptions or already know that you want to get involved, jump on
the newsgroup and fire away.
[1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/fproj/
[2]
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.fproj
[3]
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=4&group=eclipse.fproj#4
Thanks for listening.
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