Hi Kevin,

The subject is very interesting but I believe that Eclipse E4 have intention
to use EMF.
I would like call about TK-UI for declarative UI but TK-UI use DOM and it
seems that people prefer EMF than DOM.

I would like just say too, that I'm refactoring TK-UI to use UFace
<http://code.google.com/p/uface/>(where I'm contributing) which propose this
project to Eclipse
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse/Incubator/UFacekit

I think that UFace is very interesting for declarative UI because :

* it provide universal API to render it to SWT, Swing, QT, GWT... (UIElement
)
* manage binding with JFace Databinding. So you can bind properties of
widget (visible, text...), layout properties (orientation, with...)
  with anything. Into TK-UI it's easy to bind DOM element, attributes with
tje UIElement. Each properties (ex : setVisible) notify listeners.
* manage Databinding with UIForm. It's easy to manage master detail and into
TK-UI I'm using to manage Databinding Expression  Language (like XAML
binding epression).

Regards Angelo



2008/11/5 Kevin McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> Thanks all who responded to my previous note.  As we did for the styling
> roundup, it'd be great if people could fill in a bit of information about a
> proposed technology as prep for us all for a call.
>
> At your earliest convenience, please take a moment to fill in an entry in
> the following table:
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/DeclarativeUI/Declarative_Construction_Roundup
>
> You'll notice a striking resemblance to the styling one we did, about
> midway down http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/DeclarativeUI/Styling_Roundup.
>
> The idea here is that providing the information shouldn't be laborious on
> the part of the presenter, but enough for everyone to get started
> investigating.  We'll then have a bakeoff call, post slides and notes back
> to the wiki.
>
> We should aim to have the call in a few weeks.
>
> Best Regards,
> Kevin
>
> ----- Forwarded by Kevin McGuire/Ottawa/IBM on 11/04/2008 06:16 PM -----
>  *Kevin McGuire/Ottawa/IBM*
>
> 10/14/2008 05:49 PM
>   To
> "E4 developer list"  cc
>   Subject
> Declarative UI roundup?
>
>
>
> Hi gang,
>
> As you may recall, in August we had a Styling roundup to look at the
> different available skinning technologies.  While organizing it, we
> discussed also wanting to do one for declarative UIs.
>
> There was a lot of interest at the time, and there's been lots of
> discussion on this list lately about different declarative UI
> technologies/approaches.  I think the Styling one went well so I was
> wondering if folks wanted to do one for declarative UIs?  Seehttp://
> wiki.eclipse.org/E4/DeclarativeUI/Styling_Roundup for an idea.
>
> This would involve some people volunteering to do a short presentation on a
> particular technology, either their own (e.g. XSWT) or one they are familiar
> with (e.g. XUL).  There'd be some prep in putting a small amount of
> information on the e4 wiki, then a call with presentations.  The idea is to
> have some decent content to discuss but not create a big presentation job
> for folks, so the emphasis would be on short presentations (and also out of
> the interest of keeping the call to say 1.5 hours which will be a challenge
> I think).
>
> The goals of the call would include but not be limited to:
>
> 1) All getting on the "same page" with respect to the different technology
> choices available to us.
> 2) Open discussion of pros/cons of different approaches.
> 3) What problems we believe it will solve in the e4 context.
> 4) Hopefully come away with a small number of "most promising" technologies
> which the community could focus on in e4.
>
> Any interest?  Note that this is community driven content, so "yes" would
> mean "yes I'll sign up to provide some content".
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
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