There are far fewer listeners running around in J2ME than there are in
J2SE, and what listeners there are tend to be more "tightly bound" to
objects (IMHO) than is the case in J2SE.  Thus, having an object act as
its own listener tends to make sense.  Frankly, I've never coded a
CommandListener as a separate object, or even as an anonymous object.
As you say, it doesn't seem to make sense to create an extra object for
this, and I think it just makes the code murkier.  Whether The Powers
That Be would consider that "good" or not, I do.

As far as constructor vs. startApp for setup, that seems to me to be
largely a matter of choice.  Personally, I tend to do my main object
initialization in the constructor, but do more "application-like" stuff
(i.e. figuring out what screen should be displayed first) in startApp.
That's simply a personal preference, and I could just as easily argue
for a different division of labor.  In the long run, neither one should
cause "a lot more resource activity" - you're probably going to have the
same code in your app whether it's called from the constructor or from
startApp, and both functions have to run before anything happens from
the user's point of view anyway.  About the only "good" argument I can
give for how one might choose to separate is to note that startApp is
actually called both when you're starting and also when you're resuming,
so you might consider putting the kind of stuff in startApp that would
be associated with both cases, and putting one-time-only stuff (needing
to be done on start, but not resume) in the constructor.

But that's just my $0.02.

Kevin Hunter

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Russel Winder
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Subject: [Eclipseme-users] On programming style

I hope this isn't considered too far off topic...

In a Java SE context, Most people try to separate out data objects and
listener objects often with anonymous classes and Mediator pattern.  All
the Java ME software I have seen to date seems to put all the listener
activity in the same class, and object, as the application.

I am guessing this is to minimize the number of classes and objects?  Is
this considered good Java ME style?

Another thing I have noticed is two definite trends with respect to
startApp and pauseApp.  Some people try to maximize the amount of work
done in the constructor of an application class and minimize the work
done in the start and pause methods.  Others seem to put as little as
possible in the constructor and everything in the start and pause
methods seemingly causing a lot more resource activity to start and stop
an application.

It is probably that I haven't read enough books on Java ME (they are in
the mail), so far I have done all my Java ME stuff from the manuals, so
I probably haven't picked up the idioms.  Is one of these two approaches
`The Right Way' ?  (For resources that remain from creation to
destruction, of course.)

Thanks.

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