Hi,

Sorry for the delay, end of year was pretty quiet around. :-)
I wish all list's participant a successful and happy new year. And I it will see Nuxeo 5 grow and succeed.

Here is some answers to your mail and a few questions, too...

On 29 déc. 06, at 10:44, Graham Triggs wrote:
A project that I am working on is currently undertaking an architecture review. There is a lot of overlap between Nuxeo ECM and what we are doing, so potentially we could make use of many of the components, but ne of the key aspects of this review - and what I specifically want to concern myself with here - is to improve modularity of the application(s).
So you are not only interested by Nuxeo Runtime, but you are willing to use other components, right? Could you share some details about your application's scope/goals? In which components are you interested in (if it's not the whole platform of course)?

There are a few ways we could achieve this, but it would seem that our favoured choice is to use OSGi. I'm keen to avoid just building directly on OSGi and to take advantage of a more fully-formed infrastructure. To this end, there are really two possibilities - Spring-OSGi, and NXRuntime.
Now, from my point of view, NXRuntime has some distinct advantages to
Spring-OSGi - not least that it is ready to use (there are some issues with Spring-OSGi that will only be resolved with Spring 2.1), and the extension mechanism, which is closely aligned to some of our review goals.
Moreover, NXRuntime allow to integrate well Java EE 5 and OSGi. It basically offer to use OSGi bundle as Java / Java EE components (POJO, EJB, etc.).

There are a few potential stumbling blocks to our adoption of Nuxeo
technologies, most of which are internal discussion matters. But at a
technical level, it is a problem that only JBoss (and Eclipse, but we
need server, not RCP - at this stage anyway) are supported as deployment platforms.
As NXRuntime runs on Equinox (for Eclipse), it should be not very difficult to write a NXRuntime adapter so that it can run on a raw Equinox and then use Equinox HTTP Server to provide the HTTP service or a Equinox/Tomcat integration through the Servlet bridge.

Is that a requirement for you to be able to run your application without a Java EE application server or you just do not want ot use JBoss?

Now, background story out of the way, I'll get to my point: Equinox
provides a servlet bridge. Has anyone considered the possibilities
and/or implications of having NXRuntime/OSGi components running with
Equinox and the servlet bridge inside a single war?
We are not aware of such a try, but we would love to. It is theoretically possible (maybe with a few tweaks). :-)

In theory at least, you would be trading off the flexible deployment
options, but you would potentially still have components bundled as
JARs, components extending others through the extension mechanism within the application, and a single war that could be deployed to any standard servlet container without the need to write additional adapters.
Definitely. For the flexible deployment, we need to study if Equinox can provide a hook to register a custom deployer. If yes, we could port our JBoss deployer to Equinox and allow the same flexibility on JBoss and on Equinox.

Anyway, that is what occurred to me as a theoretical possibility, does anyone have any comments?
You project seem very interesting and we would be please to learn more about your project and your goals to help you in this way.


Thanks for your interest,

EB.

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