Hi Howard,

Thanks for the kind words about Nuxeo as an application, and I hope we will also satisfy you as a platform (this is our main focus, anyway).

Regarding hot deployment: I agree this is a desirable feature for developers, and using OSGi should help us in this direction, but I've been told by Bogdan, the lead architect for Nuxeo Runtime, that this is a difficult problem (and when Bogdan says something is difficult, it *is* really difficult).

Nuxeo 5.1.0.GA has been tagged today (we're still working on some minor packaging issues before issuing the announcement), and hence, I'm sorry to tell you that it won't ship with hot deployment.

OTOH, I can't make any promises before Bogdan has looked deeper into this problem, but we will try to work out a solution for Nuxeo 5.2.

Of course, if anyone on this list is willing to help, this would be great.

  S.

On Aug 14, 2007, at 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Bonjour, Nuxeo folks --

Although I've been tracking & admiring your work through your releases, snapshots, code, jira, trac, sites, docs, and the archives of this list, I've never posted here before. So I'll restrict this "hello nuxeo world" message to a
highlevel theme.

I really like and agree with (at least 90% of) your architectural choices, and think you guys are doing a fine job (modulo how ambitious you have been for this cycle) following through with implementation as well. I am already recommending Nuxeo as an ECM *application*, and have high hopes for it as a high- level
*platform*.

But then, people don't post here *just* to say nice things, do they? :) So here
is my top concern:

What are the plans for hot-deployment of Plugins (those which include EJB3s; not just web components) placed into the server/default/deploy/ nuxeo.ear/plugins
directory after server startup?

Several places in the docs have statements that hot-deployment will be available on platforms that support it; and JBoss certainly is a platform that does. I have developed several plugins based on the Maven archetype you've provided (including some with EJB3 Entities, based on my previous SEAM work, and everything works great :)).... but... I have never seen any indication of even partial deployment except with a full server shutdown and startup. I was
initially quite excited about OSGi coming to JBoss, and I have found
many hints that you are working toward hot-deployment of your almost-OSGi plugins... but nothing visible in JIRA, and I have no solid sense of where it
fits in your priorities, or in relation to 5.1 GA.

As a long-time JBoss developer, I can say that hot-deployment/hot- redeployment and the resulting rapid cycle times are key to the enjoyment and productivity I have had with JBoss over the past 7 years, and with SEAM over the past 2. Having already invested hundreds of hours into Nuxeo over the past 5 months, and with heavy coding commitments during the upcoming months, I sincerely hope the 5.1 GA
will ship with hot-deployment.


Best regards,

Howard (hxp) Pearlmutter

http://www.jboss.howard.pearlmutter.com

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