Sorry Petra for the duplication, but it looks as if others might be 
interested as well.
        I read a really excellent book for a class I took last term that I think 
is a good text although perhaps some of the anthologies would be better 
for starting off. It is called, "Ecofeminism" by Vandana Shiva and Maria 
Mies.  Definitely worth reading.
        Also, many people have been noting that some issues that come up 
have been ignored or haven't received a fair amount of attention.  I 
don't think it has anything to do with how important they are.  I know 
that personally I always want to respond to everything, but sometimes I 
hardly even read everything because I just don't have the time.  I'm sure 
that is why some things have gotten skipped over, not because they lack 
relevance.  We are just too busy!!  Hope I haven't put words in anyone's 
mouth; I didn't mean to.
        ~Gretchen
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Apr  4 14:33:21 MDT 1995
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 16:33:16 -0400
From: Deborah Rudacille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Re: Overpopulation/ESA/? -Reply -Reply

>>> Brian A. Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  4/4/95, 03:49pm >>>

These points are important because they clarify what is needed for 
population stabilization.  It is NOT turning the whole world middle 
class according to the first world standards of consumption (this, 
obviously, would be disastrous ecologically).  It is turning the 
whole world middle class in terms of economic justice such as access 
to nutrition, basic health care, social security in old age, etc.  
In situations of general economic security and stability, and  
women's access to birth control and positions of status other than 
as breeders, communities tend to stabilize their population levels.  

Brian 

Agreed on all points !  Can it be, Brian, that we have finally (gasp)
achieved consensus--on this list, if not others ?  Also, I certainly
didn't mean to imply that poor people do not care for their children
to the best of their ability--only that if their decison to have
children were dependent on ability to provide a certain standard of
living, many would of necessity remain childless or have many fewer
children. 

Deborah

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