Susan:
        The nature vs. culture issue reminds me of an ecology theory that 
        distinguishes between "r type" organisms and "k type" organisms.  
        
        r type organisms, such as mold, settle in a new area and grow in an 
        uncontrolled fashion (picture cultures in a petri dish) until they 
        use up the avaialable resources and/or poison the area with their 
        own wastes.  Unsustainable.  They emit spores, or whatever, before 
        they die and the spores colonize new areas.

        k type organisms have feedback systems that allow them to control 
        their own population (e.g., changes in reproductive activities) to 
        stay within the carrying capacity of their area.  k type organisms 
        tend to live in harmony with their environment for extended periods 
        of time.  Sustainable.

        During the hunter-gatherer phase of human existence, we were 
        k type: rather stable populations.  Many tribes were nomadic, 
        moving back and forth between areas as needed for survival, but 
        living within the carrying capacity of their overall area.

        Then about 10,000 years ago came the "First Wave," as Alvin Toffler 
        calls it in his book "The Third Wave," where agriculturalism swept 
        over civilization and radically changed it.  We started turning 
        into an r type organism, with the results of desertification and 
        other environmental disasters.  About three hundred years ago it 
        was followed by the "Second Wave" - the industrial revolution, 
        which dramatically changed civilization again.  (Don't we know it!)  
        Toffler argues that in the past few decades we've entered a "Third 
        Wave," toppling the industrial framework and replacing it with an 
        information and service based economy.  (Of course, many countries 
        are still in the Second or First wave, and some peoples are still 
        pre-wave hunter-gatherers.)

        Hopefully we'll figure out how to become k type again during the 
        Third Wave, and live in harmony with the biosphere.  The "waves" 
        Toffler refers to are largely cultural.  I don't think the 
        "nature vs. culture" distinction is as useful as the concept of 
        changing our culture to get in synch with nature, i.e., become 
        k type.

        Regarding the human brain, you may be right, Susan, that 
        _anatomical_ differences between the male and female brain aren't 
        that important.  However, from my experience (which includes being 
        on Prozac) BRAIN CHEMISTRY is a crucial factor.  The change in a 
        person's mood, which dramatically affects behavior and decision 
        making, is largely based on the levels of myriad neurotransmitters, 
        homones, etc. in the brain.  ("Listening to Prozac" is a very 
        interesting book.)  And, of course, there are distinct differences 
        between male and female endocrine systems.  So I wouldn't write 
        this off too quickly.

        That doesn't mean I think men and women should "stay in their own 
        place."  With very few exceptions, I'd like to see many more women 
        in high places such as Congress, as CEOs, etc., and as President.  
        I think Carol Browner and Al Gore make a great team for 
        environmental protection.  In personal relationships I enjoy 
        sharing power, taking turns being in charge, etc.  We don't have to 
        let biological differences dictate our power structure, which is 
        based on mental, not physical, capabilities.  But it helps to 
        understand the differences, especially where men are screwing 
        things up.

        (WARNING - FLAME BAIT:  One exception I have is that I don't like 
        to see women in hand-to-hand combat with men in battle, due to 
        physical differences.  It's not fair.  Why do y'all want to copy 
        the stupid things we do, anyway?)
                                                avr
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