Al--you said several posts ago that you never intended to become the focus of
so much debate. If that is true, might I suggest that you intentionally become
a lurker for a while? The issue of silencing others/being silenced by others
is a complex one in feminisms (note the plural), so I don't want to simply tell
or ask you to shut up. That's not my purpose. But you are obviously used to
being a speaker, to having your opinions listened to. By giving up your voice
(on this list and only temporarily) you will achieve at least two things: 1. you
will allow the list in general to get back to more important topics; it's not
our job and we don't have time to educate you. 2. you will experience what it's
like NOT to have a voice--an experience many people live with all their lives.
(And 3. you might learn more by listening only for a while.)
in peace,
Sara
ps: I never asked for and I don't want your sarcasm. I carefully worded my
previous post to you to minimize sarcasm. I was writing to you in good faith
and you returned with bilious bull. And you wonder why nobody wants to play
with you?
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 7 10:00:49 1995
by VAXF.COLORADO.EDU (PMDF V5.0-3 #8140)
07 Jul 1995 09:55:47 -0600 (MDT)
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 11:05:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Toshihide Hamazaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bioregionalism
In-reply-to: "6 Jul 95 21:48:25 PDT from" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mary thank you for your thoughtful response. I have not read the book
you mensioned. I do not know what you are interested in, but I am more
interested in the appliciation of the bioregionalism into practical and ethical
sense. I live in Georgia for 7 years and have witnessed many abusive land plact
ices, economic and social change.
For example, last year Albany GA was completely flooded. It was due to poor
land management. Ecologically, you cannot build houses on the flood plain whic
h will sure be flooded and become possible hazard for water quality. Ecological
ly sound practice is to relocate flood plain community to uplands. BUT, a
friend of mine who works over the restoration project told me that they cannot.
The majority of flood plain communiy are blacks who recently have succeeded to
elect the black representative to city goverment. Relocation means that a loss
of black majority voting district and consequently loss of black representative
in the city goverment from 50% to 30%. Ecologically sound prcatice does not
necessarily mean socially sound.
Culture is also very subtle. For example, why we have lawn in the front yard
? This practice came from noble man's gardening system in England. Americans
sure inherits cultural practice from British landscape. But don't you think
it's absurd to see beautiful lawn in the arid region (e.g. AZ. Calif. NM. )
which is artificially maintained by heavy irrigation that cause the salinizatio
n of the soil? Should lawn practice be banned in these regions?
The other weekness of Bioregionalism is a role of industries and cities.
Thanks to the modern technology, the location of industries is free from geogra
phical constraints. How about local economy? Majority of materials and capita
l are circulating globally. Sustainable agriculture will increase the price
of foods, which I do not mind. But can farmer compete with other cheap foods
coming from other places?
Those are few of questions that came out while I was taking an ecosystem
management project. The frustration Ecologists have about the problems are tha
t ecologists find out possible ecological hazards and practices, and they know
the solution. But whenever ecologists provide ecologically sound solution, all
the econmists,sociologists, policy makers, etc. say it's impossible and too
destractive to local community.
I am really interested in the development of bioregionalism to those practica
l issues.
Toshihide Hamazaki
Institute of Ecology
The University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602
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>From Bob Witanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/4/95
JULY 3 PHILADELPHIA RALLY IN SUPPORT OF MUMIA
ABU-JAMAL
Presentation by representative of the Bruderhof Community
(Recorded from the excellent WBAI 99.5 FM (New York City)
report on the event by Jose
Santiago.)
The death penalty is the cancer of the American country. It will
destroy the integrity of the American people. We come from
Germany. We experienced nazi Germany and I tell you we in
America are in the same situation
now that Germany was in in the late 20's.
It was apathy, it was apathy which brought Hitler to power
and it is apathy which will destroy the American people. I thank
God for the organizers of this march for having people
all over the country to Free Mumia. The death penalty is the sign
of a police state and our country should be ashamed to have the
death penalty. We are the only ones aside from Russia,
Iran, Iraq and Nigeria who have the death penalty. And it will not
work, it does not deter crime.
We are predominantly white people (within the Bruderhofs)
although we have some Black Brothers and Sisters. But Mumia is
our brother.
All our children that is from 6 years and up and all our grown ups
in all of our 7 communities have written to Governor Tom Ridge
and have sent copies to Mumia and he has deeply appreciated. He
said he is the only one on death row who is complaining
about too much mail. We are going to keep the mail coming I
promise you. We have set on the path to support Mumia because
we also believe that he is innocent. But brothers and sisters,
let us do it nonviolently.
The conscience of the American people is sick. It has to be
reawakened. We have to stand for the values of our forefathers.
The values which built the liberty bell behind us. All of this
seems to be forgotten.
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Topic No. 2
JULY 3 PHILADELPHIA RALLY IN SUPPORT OF MUMIA
ABU-JAMAL
Presentation by MOVE representative
(Recorded from the excellent WBAI 99.5 FM (New York City)
report on the event by Jose Santiago.)
You are not saving your life or doing anything right by being
quiet, not rocking the boat, not upsetting the apple cart. It's
past time that we rock some damn boats. It's past time that we
upset plenty of apple carts. This country was founded on
resistance, according to them. You know what they say this
Liberty Bell stands for? You know what they say the 4th. of July
stands for? Nathan Hale, Patrick Henry, Paul Revere, all the
people that this system says stood up. Fought cops called
redcoats. Went to war with England. Shot cops called red coats.
They stood up.
They would not sit back and tolerate injustice ...
What they say the 4th. of July stands for, let's make it a
reality. Let's stand up against this rotten ass system. Let's defy
legality. And anything else that tells us that they have the right
to kill our brother, that they have the right oppress us. I'm
saying it's over, it's dead, it's done. We are sick and tired of
being beat, murdered, thrown in jail for no reason. It's over.
Are you ready to take a stand? Are you ready to stand up?
That's all it takes? Unity, people coming together for one
purpose. Not only to save the life of one person, but to get our
enemy off our back, get this oppressor off all of our backs, that's
the bottom line. This thing is far bigger. More far reaching than
Mumia Abu-Jamal. Mumia is the symbol, he is the symbol, of
what is wrong with this system. The over all oppression. So we
must rally around Mumia and save his life as the beginning, a
starting point, for the long journey of getting this beast off our
back. On the MOVE. Long live John Africa.
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Topic No. 3
/* ---------- "Mumia July 3 Rally in Philadelphia" ---------- */
>From Bob Witanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/4/95
500 PEOPLE RALLY ON JULY 3RD. AT LIBERTY BELL IN
PHILADELPHIA
500 people attended an all day rally on July 3rd at the Liberty
Bell in Philadelphia to oppose the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
and to demand an immediate fair trial for Mumia. As tourists
lined up to learn all about how great liberty and justice is in
America, they were treated to speeches about the real deal, sham
justice, political exectution, racism and other travesties.
One of the largest organized presences was that of the Bruderhof
religious community. Well over 100 members of Bruderhof,
dressed in blue, were on hand, dressed in blue, distributing copies
of their publication THE PLOUGH, which contains several articles
by and about Mumia Abu-Jamal, singing songs and carrying signs
calling for peaceful solutions to our problems. The Bruderhof
community is driven by its belief in pacifism and its opposition to
the death penalty and other injustices. The community began in
Germany in the days that the nazis were rising to power. Due to
harassment and oppression, the Bruderhofs have had to relocate
their community a few times until they ended up in the US, where
they now have several established communities. (For more on the
Bruderhofs, contact them at Hutterian Brethren, Spring Valley
Bruderhof, Farmington, PA 15437-9506)
Also well represented at the rally was the Campaign to Free Black
Political Prisoners and Prisoners of War which turned out about 50
people with a bus coming in from NYC and one coming in from
NJ. TJ Whitaker of NJ, and Tanaquil Jones spoke on behalf of
this group.
Left organizations represented included Refuse and Resist,
Socialist Workers Party, Partisan Defense Committee and others.
There was a smattering of anarchists, members of MOVE, several
African and African American Organizations and many
individuals.
NJ-SPEAKOUT subscriber Mark Taylor, who founded Academics
for Mumia Abu-Jamal delivered an excellent presentation about the
situation and what needs to be done. I had an opportunity to
perform for the first time publicly "HAVE YOU HEARD THE
VOICE OF MUMIA ABU-JAMAL? song (posted yesterday). I
also distributed lyric sheets with information about nj-speakout and
a NJ contact address at the rally. Mark and I carried our newly
painted banner stating "STOP THE EXECUTION OF MUMIA
ABU-JAMAL, FAIR TRIAL NOW, NEW JERSEY JUSTICE
FOR MUMIA COMMITTEE.
I ran into Bill Bradley (the un-senator, formerly of New
Brunswick) and Mike Crockford (also formerly of New
Brunswick) at the activities. People came from as far as Detroit
and Virginia to the activity.
At 4 pm, there were readings from LIVE FROM DEATH ROW
by Mumia Abu Jamal, poetry and rap presentations. Among those
participating in the readings were the famous folksinger and
longtime veteran activist Pete Seeger and Catholic Priest and Peace
and Justice Activist Dan Berrigan.
Posted separately are some of the presentations made at the rally
which were recorded from the excellent WBAI 99.5 FM (New
York City) report on the event by Jose Santiago.
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Topic No. 4
JULY 3 PHILADELPHIA RALLY IN SUPPORT OF MUMIA
ABU-JAMAL
Presentation by representative of Malcolm X Commemoration
Committee (Recorded from the excellent WBAI 99.5 FM (New
York City) report on the event by Jose Santiago.)
We in the Malcolm X Commemoration Committee understand that
Brother Mumia and all of the other political prisoners are
casualties of the war America is waging against Black America.
Mumia Abu Jamal is a casualty of that war. I support and endorse
everything that the previous speakers have said but I think we need
to look closer at the war America is waging agaisnt our Black
Nation. America is based on capitalism which translates into
racism. If you are opposed to capitalism and imperialism, then
you are opposed to racism. If you are opposed to racism, then
you are opposed to capitalism and imperialism These are the
stands that Brother Mumia took. We do understand that the need
to eliminate the Black Nation on the part of this racist hypocritical
government is of paramount interest. And we appreciate the
number of comrades from the left and from other spectrums of the
society who are joined wiht is to save this brother, We feel that
we need to do much more.
When Ramona talks about the need to stop talking and do some
action, it was Brother Malcolm who told us "If you;re a
revolutionary, you don't have time for singing, you're too busy
swinging. It is not necessary to point out the covert actions that
need to be taken. You're intelligent political people.
I want to talk about some of the overt things we should be doing.
Someone mentioned the need to shut down this state, an economic
boycott. We have come together to free Mumia. We can take the
same unity that we've shown around this issue. There are other
political prisoners and prisoners of war who are capable of leading
our struggle, our war against this racist country. They don't want
them out on the street because of their organizational ability,
their ability to analyze, and their ability to take action.
We need to use these same forces to send a message to those
elected officials, every one of the officials who have the power to
release Mumia and give him a fair trial is an elected official. If
we say to them that in our thousands, we will descend on this
state, and tell Tom Ridge that we will work against his re-election,
that would send a message to the politicians.
The big business interests would be affected by the threat of and
the reality of an economic boycott, The politicians will respond
to a mass movement to get them out of office.
We in the Malcolm X Commemoration Committee are supporting
the other groups in the Black Nation who are beginning to form
national militias. The white right has already started organizing
with the assistance, the support and the encouragemnt of the US
government. They're ready. And they're going to be used against
people like us, Black people, poor people, radicals, progressives,
these are the people they're going to move on. We have to start
organizing ourselves. I saw a sign that says and eye for an eye
leaves everybody blind. We say that that's the price we're willing
to pay if that's what it takes to end this brutality, racism and all
the horrors we are subjected to.
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Topic No. 5
JULY 3 PHILADELPHIA RALLY IN SUPPORT OF MUMIA
ABU-JAMAL
Presentation by Ramona Africa
(Recorded from the excellent WBAI 99.5 FM (New York City)
report
on the event by Jose Santiago.)
On the MOVE ... Long live John Africa ... I don't have a lot to
say today because I'm tired of talking. The time for talk is over.
They ain't thinking about talking to Mumia ... they talking about
killing him. So the time for talk is over. Are we readt to do
something? Are we ready to save our brother's life? Are we
ready to draw the line and let this rotten ass corrupt system know
that their reign of terror is over? That the time when they can just
spill poor people's blood and oppressed people's blood ... whether
it's Black, poor white, Hispanic, Latino, Native American, is
over! IT IS OVER! We are here to send a strong clear message
to this system that they will not kill our brother.
Too many people have been killed by this system and we have sat
back bitched and moaned and complained about it. It's time to do
something about it. Let's end that list. We ain't going to have
our brother Mumia being another statistic. We ain't gonna have
it! We are gonna do what's necessary to save our brother's life.
We ain't gonna sit back and allow this government to convince us
that they are talking about killing our brother in the interest of
justice. Who are they kidding! Who the hell are thy kidding!
Ain't nobody sitting on death row next to Mumia for dropping that
bomb on MY family, burning OUR babies alive, but they gonna
tell us they got a problem with murder and they gonna kill our
brother because they say he killed somebody? Since when?
Mumia is innocent. He did not get a fair trial. Everybody and
their mother and their children should be able to understnad that
and rally around that.
But I's saying as a MOVE person ... I taking it furhter and I'm
saying U don't give a damn if Mumia did what he was accused of
doing. That ain't why he's in prison and sitting on death row
because they have to apply that across the board and they don't.
How many cops are sitting in jail for beating and killing poor
people? None. How many poor people are sitting in prison for
the accusation if killing cops. A whole lot of them that ain't guilty
of nothing.
This government got the nerve to put our brother Leonard Peltier,
an Indian, in prison, calling him a murderer because he's accused
of killing 2 FBI agents. I'm saying that all the evidence in the
world shows that Leonard didn't do it. But I'm saying that samn,
if he did it, this government ain't got no right to point the
finger at Leonard Peltier. A government that stole his whole damn
country ... put his people into virtual extinction, and they're
going to convince us that Leonard is a murderer .. that he's a
criminal?
We're sick and tired of seeing our soldiers, our freedom fighters
.. sitting in prison for 25 years like Geronimo ... 30, 50, 100
years like my 9 MOVE sisters and brothers. We're tired of seeing
out freedom fighters sitting on death row like Mumia. We ain't
gonna have it. We ain't gonna let these people kill our brother
Mumia. We're gonna do whatever's necessary to save the life of
our brother. The bottom line is, Mumia's life is not in Tom
Ridge's hands. Mumia's life is not in Judge Sabo's hands.
Mumia's life is not in our hands.
It is up to us what happens to Mumia. And I don't want Mumia's
blood on my hands. So, I'm doing whatever's necessary. I went
through a May 13 confrontation when I was bombed. My family
was burnt alive and I spent 7 years in prison. I don't want to go
back to prison ... but I will do whatever is necessary to save the
life of my Brother Mumia. I will not be a doormat for this
system. I will not let them run roughshod over us.
Interview with Detroit participant
(Recorded from the excellent WBAI 99.5 FM (New York City)
report on the event by Jose Santiago.)
I think people have been aware of this ... Mumia's been on death
row a long time now. People have gotten lackadaisical in their
level of support because they thought appeals processes would
continue and justice would be achieved. The signing of the death
warrant has put it into perspective that this is part of the
general assault on all people ... the contract on America ... tje
republican and democrat collusion in cutbacks on social services.
This is a warning ... speak out and you will be repressed ... speak
out some more and you will be killed. This is a political
lynching. People in Detroit and throughout the world won't stand
for it.
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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 20:00:37 -0400
Reply-To: "Makungu M. Akinyela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Just returned from demonstration in Atlanta for Mumia. It was
very successfull. Over 200 folk showed up and were quite
spirited. Demonstration began at the U.S. Federal Building
downtown. We began here of course to highlight the role of the
Feds through the FBI COINTELPRO program in spying on and
creating the atmosphere of hatred and dis-information around
Mumia and other leaders of the Black Panther Party. The demo
then headed through the middle of the downtown five points area
which is the central rail station where folk going home from
work were very supportive. Some joined us on our march to the
only daily in Atlanta, the Journal Constitution. We culminated at
the News paper offices to protest the veil of silence which the
news media has placed over this story. This tactic worked. By
taking the march to the media and making the media the news we
were able to get t.v. and paper coverage, and Mumias story will
be heard by thousands more. We will continue to build in
solidarity with y'all out there. Did any one else
participate in any of the efforts today. Let us know what
happened.
peace to y'all
makungu akinyela
malcolm x grassroots movement - Decatur/Atlanta
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