Can anyone help this person?
Toshihide Hamazaki Phone: 706-542-1120
Institute of Ecology Fax: 706-542-3344
Athens, GA 30602 E-nail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:34:21 -0500
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From: Thomas Livelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Feminist Ecology...
Has anyone ever read any essays written by Charlene Spretnak? I think
they offer a unique perspective on this issue of feminist ecology or
"ecofeminism". And to address the issue of taking multiple approaches
to a problem, I'd like to quote Mary Evelyn Tucker and John A. Grim :
"Our approach emphasizes plurality because perhpas we need to recognize
that diversity in life forms, in sustained bioregional habitats, and in
cosmological thinking is necessary".
I believe it is necessary because if we maintain a parochial or even a
conventional ethos, we will be ignoring the fundamental problem of
repeatedly considering the same problems, looking at the world through
the same "lens"... it is not only necessary to consider our past -
traditional thought that has led up to this post Enlightenment revolution
in worldview (western worldveiws, at least), but it is vitally important
to forge a new, comprehensive and global ethic that enables us to take
into consideration our present situation (cosmologies from antiquity did
not, obviously, have the same pressing issues to consider) - and perhaps
then we can begin to move towards, not so much a sustainable DEVELOPMENT,
but moreso, sustainable life.
Also, I'd like to quickly repeat my request for information - If anyone
can help out it would be greatly appreciated... I'm working on a project
that looks into our tendency as a human race to want to conquer... why
do we continuously seek to "go where no man has gone before" - and
glamorize humanity's supreme dominance over nature and the universe?
What is the ehtic, or perhaps more fundamentally, the human instinct,
driving this? ANd what are the past and potential environmental
implications of this drive?
Thanks in advance for any responses!!!
Sincerely,
Tom Livelli
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Subject: RE: process of ecological consciousness raising
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All of the universities and colleges I know of have rooms students
can use full of computers. My private college costs a lot, yes, but it
does not "cater to the upper-UPPER class $$$." In fact this school
and many like it are very generous with financial aid, and most of
my students are middle class kids from the midwest. The presence of
computers here is not a class thing -- it's a necessity in the
contemporary world and it would unconscionable for any college not to
provide them now. By the same token, my students will be entering a world
in which the computer is central. I intend for them to be able to function
in that world, whether they are male or female, rich or poor, or have
computers in their rooms.
Jackie, these arguments of yours do not hold water any more. This is not
the moment for Luddism -- I don't have time for that with my students.
Indeed, it is most important to bring young women to computers, to work on
bridging that particular gender gap.
For those of you who are interested, one of my medical anthropology students
produced a web page on Ayurvedic Medicine which may be found at
http://www.lawrence.edu/dept/anthropology/ayurvedic_medicine.html
This is a wonderful example of educational uses of the web. The student who did
the page (Avani Digvi) is a woman.
Candice Bradley
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>Bottom line: Universities (unless they're private and cater to the
>upper-UPPER class $$$) have no business DEMANDING everything being
>done with a computer - unless the specific computer function directly
>relates to the subject matter. Of course, computer classes are
>different. There ARE PC labs available.
>Jackie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kimberly Anne Mongoven )
Subject: Re: process of ecological consciousness raising
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:10:02 -0600 (CST)
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from "Jackie Van
Brocklin" at Mar 13, 96 10:29:51 am
You say that T.V.'s automobiles and telephones are necessities. I
would disagree with you there and also bring up the fact that computers
are becoming a necessity (at least a minimal amount of computer
literacy is) and the fact that used computer stores are poping up all
over the place. I guess it is a matter of priorities. to me my
computer is more important than a gas gussling wreck to the
environment.
sorry just my opinion.
=)
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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 02:20:05 -0800
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Subject: RE: process of ecological consciousness raising
>The "loonyness" of govt. help w/computer purchases is no loonier
>than any OTHER kind of govt.
Thats a really good point. Maybe there should be a lot less govt "help"
because most of it is pretty loony anyway. It sure is expensive and the
colleges waste a lot of it. Maybe we should be less dependent. This is
where the women's movement is supposed to go, towards empowerment and
self-sufficency, not more dependency. Free computers for everybody doesnt
help that ideal much.
>Would you do away with Financial Aid for lower income students? And, if
>so, where would our universities BE without these students? Our
>funding comes from actual numbers of enrollment (at least the public
>ones do).
Universities would probably be more efficent and waste less money. They
might even become more customer oriented and spend less on grand buildings
and monuments to themselves. Funding should probably come from aluminatis
and endowments and tuitions. I'm really suspicious about govt funding.
Theres got to be some strings tied there somewhere.
>My POINT is that computers cost WAY more than TV's. Autos and
>telephones are NECESSITIES - TV's-debateable. You can buy a TV for
>LESS than $100 - you can't even buy ACCESSORIES for computers for
>this. I think you all know what I mean.
Maybe TVs are more in demand and maybe they are built to lower standards
than computers. Maybe their just cheaper to build, you know, the TV does
not have a gigabite drive or a modem thing. If you add in a CD player to
the price of a TV the price comes up...would come up that is.
I think that we all just
>need to be thankful that we have a job that incorporates this function
>for us to use. Those who have their *OWN* computers - well, can you
>spell FORTUNATE, boys and girls?
Please don't SHOUT.
Maybe its not just FORTUNAT, maybe they earned them with job money? Maybe
the college could rent them to students. Whatever. I don't think anything
is solved buy dumping free computers on everybodys lawn. Even telephones
are necesities as you say but they still have to be bought or rented from
the telephone company. So whats different about computers.
>
>Bottom line: Universities (unless they're private and cater to the
>upper-UPPER class $$$) have no business DEMANDING everything being
>done with a computer
Anyway we will just have to get with the modern age I guess. They already
demand we use our own paper and pens and god knows what else. I suppose
they can demand we do stuff on a computer too. I will let you know if
someone here has a good computer for sale for you. I take it your using
someone elses? The lab's system?
Betty D
