Birthing environments: Fiona. I'd like to add some more information. The 
Inuit Women's Association in Canada (Paukttutit, 200 Elgin St. Suite 
804, Ottawa Ontario K2P 1L5, Canada) has a lot of information about 
traditional birthing practices and their campaign to bring back community 
birthing to the Canadian Arctic. They also produced a video (which I 
co-directed) that documents this work. It's called Ikajurti: Midwifery in 
the Canadian Arctic, and while made in 1990, I think it's still very 
relevant.  

On Wed, 20 Mar 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>                           ECOFEM Digest 411
> 
> Topics covered in this issue include:
> 
>   1) Birthing environments
>       by Fiona Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   2) Re: Birthing environments
>       by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   3) A reading.....
>       by Richard Twine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   4) Re: unecological computers
>       by jivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   5) Re: Birthing environments
>       by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Naseem Rakha)
>   6) Re: unecological computers
>       by "Jackie Van Brocklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   7) Conference announcement/fwd
>       by "STEFANIE S. RIXECKER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   8) Re: Birthing environments
>       by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   9) Re: unecological computers
>       by Richard Twine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  10) 
>       by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  11) Conference Annoucement (fwd)
>       by "STEFANIE S. RIXECKER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:13:56 +1030 (CST)
> From: Fiona Chambers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Birthing environments
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I am an Australian postgraduate student interested in the subject of
> birthing environments, for a research project I am doing.
> 
> I became interested in this as a result of my own birth experience (twins,
> in hospital, total obstetrician(male) control, dehumanising, depressing)
> and my realisation that this is not an isolated experience. So many of the
> women I have spoken to in recent years have had similar experiences that I
> am beginning to wonder what all this 'natural childbirth' talk has
> achieved. 
> 
> It seems to me that, in hospital anyway, as soon as the first complication
> arises all pretense at respect disappears, and control takes dominance. 
> 
> I now wonder if there are differences in the experiences of women giving
> birth in different environments, eg at home. I suspect that I would have
> felt more power in my own home, and would have found it easier to
> communicate. (This would have been too dangerous for me having twins, but
> maybe next time....?)
> 
> If anyone has any interesting information for me, I would appreciate
> receiving it through this service.
> 
> Such things may include;
> -Gender aspects of the various birthing environments which in Australia
> might include hospital delivery suites, birthing units, homes, and those
> environments chosen by aboriginal women, for example.
> 
> -Details of where you had your children (if you have any), how it was, why
> you chose that place, what were the gender aspects of that choice, etc.
> 
> -The power relationships which exist between women in labour, and their
> birth attendants. For example I am interested in the role of men as
> obstetricians, and the controlling influence they have had on childbirth
> over this century.
> 
> I hope this gives you an idea of what I'm thinking about.
> 
> I look forward to any responses,
> 
> Fiona Chambers.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 02:58:12 -0600 (CST)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Birthing environments
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Fiona, there is an absolute wealth of information available to you on the
> subject of the biomedical manipulation of birth and the birth experience. 
> As an anthropologist, I can recommend the following:
> 
> any book by Shiela Kitzinger, a midwife-anthropologist
> 
> Brigette Jordan, Birth in Four Cultures (Waveland, 4th edition). Brigette also
> produced a wonderful film that I saw in graduate school in the '80s but I am
> unable to find it for my own use with students. It shows a Mayan birth that I
> will never forget. 
> 
> Emily Martin, The Woman in the Body.  The classic.
> 
> Birth Stories, whose author I cannot remember -- a collection of stories about
> the birth experience.  Another one I cannot remember is by a N. American
> feminist who writes a diary to her infant son about her pregnancy, birth, and
> his early life (including his circucision in a Jewish celebration). Perhaps
> somebody else can reveal the authors of these for me. I especially loved both
> these books.
> 
> (Oddly) Jane Fonda's pregnancy workout book coauthored with Femmy Delyser is
> excellent.  Femmy is also a midwife.  Jane Fonda's own personal experiences are
> discussed in this book.
> 
> Here's another you might enjoy, a book which details from a woman's own
> perspective not only her birth experiences but her menarche, marriages, first
> sexual experience, etc., in an African culture: Marjorie Shostak, Nisa.
> 
> There are films of Kung healing that can nicely accompany the above book; these
> show communal healing practices during difficult labors.
> 
> Several nice articles about birth among Inuit and several other cultures are in
> a book edited by W. Penn Handwerker (Westview) Births and Power.  
> 
> These, more from the perspective of the baby: Klaus and Kennel, Maternal
> Infant Bonding, and Klaus and Klaus, The Amazing Newborn. 
> 
> Fiona, I have had three children and the range of experiences. The above books
> are all wonderful and would provide you with an absolute wealth of information
> about birth experiences in many kinds of cultures.  I am sure 
> there are resources right there in Australia about birth experiences in 
> your country. I would ask a midwife or a natural childbirth coach for 
> some references or talk to women at a La Leche League chapter -- do you 
> have La Leche League in Australia?  I'll bet the women on this e-list will
> overwhelm you with resources and information themselves.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:30:20 GMT
> From: Richard Twine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: A reading.....
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> "Living with Contradictions - Controversies in Feminist Social Ethics" (1994)
>       Edited By Alison Jagger         Westview Press
> 
> An excellent edited compilation!
> A chapter entitled "Consuming Animals" and a final chapter entitled 
> "enviromentalism" which is basically on ecofeminism. New articles by Warren, 
> Kheel, Shiva, Plumwood, Plant and lots more..........
> Richard       :-)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:58:51 -0600 (CST)
> From: jivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Prof Dr Renae Prell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: unecological computers
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I sympathise with Prof Dr Renae Prell's dilemma.  Every 'progress' has its 'pri
> ce'.  Medical miracles and population explosion.  There are no free lunches.  O
> ne may ponder over two extremes of environmental degradation:
> Extreme 1: Human started the the destruction/exploitation of the environment by
> stepping out of the cave
> Extreme 2: Humans and their by products (e.g. hazardous waste) are as much a pa
> rt of the environment as animals and their droppings or plants and their remain
> s.
> Imagine each human being alloted 7 acres of land to live of without any outside
> contact.  Where would we be if the dinosaurs were still around? I would appreci
> ate your coments.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 10:36:57 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Naseem Rakha)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Birthing environments
> 
> >I am an Australian postgraduate student interested in the subject of
> >birthing environments, for a research project I am doing.
> >
> >I am glad you have posted your questions.  In a way I am doing my own
> research on "birthing."  
> 
> I am 36, and am contemplating having a child.  One of my best friends is a
> midwife.  For the past 17 years she has delivered thousands of babies, all
> of them in the privacy and comfort of people's homes.  
> 
> She has delivered babies around the world, trying to bring back to women the
> power of their own bodies.  Most recently my good friend has been working
> for her Nursing degree in order to become a certified nurse-midwife.  
> 
> Her stories about the mechanical "production oriented" approach to delivery
> in hospitals across the world, even "enlightened" hospitals that offer cream
> scented birthing rooms, are frightening.  
> 
> Of course if I decide to have a child I will give birth at home.  The big
> question for me is, do I have the courage to have and raise a child?  But
> this is another subject.  
> 
> I will be following the responses to your question closely.  
> 
> NRakha
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:44:33 CST
> From: "Jackie Van Brocklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>         STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: unecological computers
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I'm with you, Renae!  Perhaps one day a "battery-powered" PC will be
> invented, so they will be like portable phones!  No, there is nothing
> economic about them.  They do many things well - but it's debatable
> whether they are done 1) BETTER or 2) FASTER.  And no - no paper is
> saved - that's for sure!
> 
> I'm not "bashing" computers, but I just think they are "over-hyped"
> and do not live up to their press!  Yes, I do spend so much time on
> mine at work that I'm really kind of GLAD I don't have one at home;
> I'd never get out of the HOUSE!  And getting out of the house is what
> I do BEST!!!  :)
> 
> (Going to Portland, Or. for spring break - see (read?) ya'll next
> Wednesday, 27th! 
> 
> Jackie
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:30:25 +1200
> From: "STEFANIE S. RIXECKER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Conference announcement/fwd
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> 
>                     WOLVES OF AMERICA
> 
>     Defenders of Wildlife is proud to present Wolves of America, a 
> conference on wolf biology, recovery, management and activism, 
> which will be held November 14-16, 1996 at the Albany Omni Hotel, 
> Albany, New York.  For further information and registration 
> materials, contact Nina Fascione, Defenders of Wildlife, 1101 14th 
> St. NW, Suite 1400, Washington, D.C. 20005; (202) 789-2844 ext. 334; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> CALL FOR PAPERS/POSTERS
> 
>     Defenders of Wildlife is accepting oral and poster presentation 
> submissions for the Wolves of America conference.  Abstract 
> submissions must be received by 1 June 1996 and final papers must be 
> received by 1 September, 1996.  Appropriate topics for papers 
> includes wolf biology, behavior, taxonomy, general ecology, recovery, 
> management, and economic impacts.  To receive a conference 
> registration form and guidelines for authors, contact Nina Fascione 
> at Defenders of Wildlife.
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Stefanie S. Rixecker
> Centre for Resource Management/
> Department of Resource Management
> Lincoln University
> Canterbury
> Aotearoa New Zealand
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone:  (64) (03) 325-2811 x8377
> Fax:    (64) (03) 325-3841
> ************************************
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 23:55:28 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Birthing environments
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> HI,
> 
> I am also very interested in this subject.  I have three children.  The first
> was born in a hospital.  I had midwives and was in a birthing room, but had
> to have a caesarian in the end.  The experience was demeaning and a real
> feeling of loss of control over my body, but was made better by the midwife,
> who stayed with me throughout.  She was not only comforting, but she let me
> have every opportunity to deliver the baby naturally before the caesarian.
>  He was just too large (over 10 lbs.) and had his head turned to one side.
> 
> The second birth was at a midwife's home and went very easily, although there
> was some intervention on the part of the midwife.  She let me control much of
> the birth, though.  I was pleased with the experience.
> 
> The third birth was as close to perfect as possible.  It took place in my
> home in a birthing tub.  The midwife I had chosen had a very
> non-interventionist philosophy and barely touched me during the birth.  She
> also did not tell me the gender of the baby, but let me find it out for
> myself, first.  The lighting was dim, as I wished it, and I felt that I
> controlled the experience completely.  As a result, I learned something
> important about my own powers and abilities.  I know that sounds strange, but
> it even had something to do with my finally finishing my dissertation -- the
> experience was such a strong learning experience.  
> 
> If you would like more information or to exchange ideas/thoughts just ask
> <could be done privately if preferred>.
> 
> I do not plan to have another baby, but if I were to decide to do so it would
> never, ever be at a hospital.  When you enter the hospital doors you give up
> your bodily autonomy, and in a birthing situation I think you need control
> over your body more than at any other time in your life.
> 
> Louisa
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:57:53 GMT
> From: Richard Twine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: unecological computers
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:44:33 CST Jackie Van Brocklin wrote:
> 
> > From: Jackie Van Brocklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:44:33 CST
> > Subject: Re: unecological computers
> > To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > I'm with you, Renae!  Perhaps one day a "battery-powered" PC will be
> > invented, so they will be like portable phones!  No, there is nothing
> > economic about them.  They do many things well - but it's debatable
> > whether they are done 1) BETTER or 2) FASTER.  And no - no paper is
> > saved - that's for sure!
> > 
> > I'm not "bashing" computers, but I just think they are "over-hyped"
> > and do not live up to their press!  Yes, I do spend so much time on
> > mine at work that I'm really kind of GLAD I don't have one at home;
> > I'd never get out of the HOUSE!  And getting out of the house is what
> > I do BEST!!!  :)
> > 
> > (Going to Portland, Or. for spring break - see (read?) ya'll next
> > Wednesday, 27th! 
> > 
> > Jackie
> Not meaning to be pedantic Jackie, but probably one of the last things we want is a 
> BATTERY powered computer, re:the environmental damage done by batteries. However 
> bearing in mind that solar power does not have to be indoors, perhaps this would be 
>a 
> better alternative.  On a slightly different angle, how many peoples computers use 
> RECYCLED copier paper? Before thoughts of 'but the quality is crap' come to the 
>surface, 
> there are several types of laser quality recycled paper on the market which are 
>totally 
> indistinguishable from the unsustainable sources. Anyway this is a possible way to 
>make 
> computers more eco-friendly.  Maybe this has already been done in the US, but not so 
>over 
> here.
> Richard.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:48:44 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>    I sometimes think we are so enamored
> with the new technology we substitute it for real environmental action or
> real
> analysis from being outdoors in the field.
> _________
> I agree with that and I would like to add that there is never just one
> solution to a complex problem.  I think that exchanging discs (virus free of
> course), using the net, expanding experiential learning and increasing the
> use of projects and interactive tools, teaching can become more interesting
> and not less.  I would hate sitting in front of the computer all of the time,
> too.  But let's use it as one tool of many.  Reducing all work to work on the
> net is not the answer, at least as I see it.  But if it contains the amount
> of paper turn out, then it's one step.  Plastic waste is a concern, but discs
> can be used over and over unlike paper.  Most undergrads don't keep all of
> their papers that they use on discs.  The good ones, the big ones, etc.  The
> rest gets deleted and the space used for something else.
> 
> Just some thoughts
> 
> Katie M. Ladd
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 08:29:56 +1200
> From: "STEFANIE S. RIXECKER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Conference Annoucement (fwd)
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> 
> > CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT
> >
> > FEMINIST PERSPECTIVES ON AUTONOMY AND AGENCY
> > 28-30 June, 1996
> > Australian National University
> >
> > KEYNOTE ADDRESS
> > Diana Meyers
> > Professor of Philosophy, University of Connecticut, Storrs
> > Among her works are "Subjection and Subjectivity" (1994), "Self, Society
> > and Personal Choice" (1989) and "Women and Moral Theory", (co-edited
> > with Eva Kittay, 1985)
> >
> > OTHER SPEAKERS INCLUDE:
> > Marilyn Friedman (Washington University, St. Louis)
> > Lorraine Code (York University, Toronto)
> > Genevieve Lloyd (UNSW)
> > Susan Brison (Dartmouth College, New Hampshire)
> > Susan Dodds (Wollongong University)
> >
> > Conference Sponsors:
> > Australia Foundation for Culture & The Humanities
> > Department of Philosophy, Faculties, ANU
> > Research School of Social Sciences, ANU
> >
> > Conference convenors:
> > Natalie Stoljar, Philosophy (Faculties), ANU
> > Catriona Mackenzie, Philosophy, Macquarie
> >
> > FEES AND REGISTRATION
> > The fee of $40 ($25 for students/unemployed) includes lunch on Saturday
> > and Sunday.
> > Registration is due by Friday 7 June, 1996
> >
> > For further information and/or registration forms, please contact:
> > Fiona Webster
> > Department of Philosophy (Faculties)
> > ANU
> > Canberra, AUSTRALIA, 0200
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Ph. 06 2493023; Fax. 06 2495058
> >
> > For updated information, see our web site:
> >
> > http://online.anu.edu.au/philosophy/AutonAgency.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Stefanie S. Rixecker
> Centre for Resource Management/
> Department of Resource Management
> Lincoln University
> Canterbury
> Aotearoa New Zealand
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone:  (64) (03) 325-2811 x8377
> Fax:    (64) (03) 325-3841
> ************************************
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> End of ECOFEM Digest 411
> ************************
> 
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 25 19:36:45 1996
 id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:22:26 +1200
 ; 26 Mar 96 14:22:52 +1200
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:22:18 +1200
From: "STEFANIE S. RIXECKER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISA Programme/fwd
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Lincoln University

The ISA can be a good way of linking ideas regarding women and 
environment, so I thought I would post this info.  It's originally 
from FEMISA (Feminist Theory & Gender Studies within ISA).  Sorry 
about any cross-posts.

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 08:27:36 -0600 (CST)
From: Deborah Stienstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FEMISA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Final ISA program online


The final program for the Annual Meetings of the International Studies 
Association 16-20 April in San Diego is now on-line at 
http://csf.colorado.edu/isa

Deborah Stienstra
Femisa list manager and co-moderator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Centre for Resource Management/
Department of Resource Management
Lincoln University
Canterbury
Aotearoa New Zealand
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (64) (03) 325-2811 x8377
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