> Ecofeminism, I think, is the worst nightmare of the political right. >It refuses the resourcing of nature, it contends the 'currently reigning' >definition >of humanity, and is obviously feminist, antiracist, anti-individualistic (sorry >Betty) and anti-capitalist. I would personally add that it does not judge >by appearance. >You could also say that it was concerned with the >promotion of an earth-based spirituality, rather than religion...... >One could imagine a future when eating meat was not so tied up in the >destruction >of the environment and worker-exploitation etc, but this still would not, >personally, >be enough for me. Inflicting pain is violent and sadistic, I feel. >A new thread would be nice..... >Richard >P.S. Sue Grubb, you keep me sane!!, thanks. Well, I dont know about being worst nightmare of the right. I suspect they think we are so far out in left field as to be of no consequince. We are too few and the ideas are not mainstream so what do they have to worry about really. In their eyes we are probably written off as radical feminists who don't date, hate men, and veggie Marxists who look and act unappealing (none of this true of course) so what do they care? As far anti-indiviualistic I'm not so sure. Theres lots of people here who are clearly quite individualistic and I'm surely proud to be one. In other words I don't let the group whatever it is define me and I dont define myself by a group. Submerging into a collective thing can have a negative effect on your personality, sense of worth, your character and things like that. And I bet theres many ecofems who think the same way. You have to do your own thinking and being anti-individual doesnt help much there. Ultimately we are responsible for ourselves as so we have to be individual to do that. However, maybe it's pointless to debate it. It seems to me that individualism is the coming thing, the next wave or something and little we can do about it anyway. People are still talking about the collapse of collective states everywhere--you know the ones that send their artists and writers to lumber camps and starve the rest of the population with excuses. And I think what the Chinese are doing to their people is just awful dont you? Any way, we all are lucky to be living where we do, even with capitlaism which is another coming wave probably. If that happened maybe we women could run our own businesses and things and dump this patriarchal stuff once and for all. TTYL Betty
