We all probably understand where the two of you are coming from.  I'd 
just like to ask both of you:

Are either of you *learning* anything from your discourse?

If so, have at it, off-list.  If not, perhaps taking a look at your 
delivery may be illuminating.  Jason, you do not convince anyone that 
your viewpoint is valid by saying "fuck off".  Kylie, you do not convince 
anyone to listen to you by calling him names.

That's all.  We have a lot of work to do.  The first place to start may 
be learning respectfull ways to speak to one another.  Learn how to 
disagree without name calling or cursing each other.  

We can ALL do that.

Mary

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