I also believe that Kylie has an exclusionist attitude that can , in the
long and short term, be detrimental to the feminist movement. I am
referring to the notion that man cannot belong to the group of people
called "feminists."

mike i did not say the above.  jason probably said that i did. but i did
not.  i said that  - oh why bother.  you obviously weren't listening in the
first place.

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