Dear All:

I just have a few comments concerning the recent lines about 
Christianity and the Bible.  In particular, I'd like to comment--or 
respond--to parts of Libby's recent post (I've taken the liberty of 
inserting A, B, & C; the post included more than is repeated below).  
This is simply a message to continue the dialgue, not to point 
fingers, i.e., blame.

Libby's comments include:

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A) Whilst I find it hard to believe that people take the creation 
story literally (though I know that some do)  I find it alsmost harder 
to believe that people who criticise such beliefs expect documents 
written between 4,000 and 2,000 years ago to be a reliable reflection 
of how we should live life today.  How could they????  I believe that 
parts of the Bible provide extraordinarily fine messages about good, 
just, peaceful, loving ways to live, but to expect it all to be 
brilliant is just ludicrous.

B) What other documents do we expect to survive such trauma and still 
speak to present generations?

C) I reckon we'd all think it was pretty silly to try to accept and 
live totally by a comprehensive set of dictums from Shakespeare or 
Chaucer's times - and that was only a few hundred years ago.

Libby
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With regards to A, it may be diffciult for some of us to believe that 
individuals take "the Creation Story" literally.  At the same time, 
it may be difficult for some of us to believe that others take 
"monetarist policy, "fiscal restraint", or "complete employment" 
literally (related to Libby's point C).  So often, we create "stories" 
as a means of suggesting worthwile goals--or processes by which we 
can attain those goals--either to justify our positions, teach future 
generations (hard) lessons learned, etcetera.  For those using the 
Bible (or any other document/text/oral heritage) as a parable or 
suggested means of behaviour (I'm moving out of the "literal 
interpretation" view now), these stories remind us of what is 
important.  Perhaps the reason we still debate--or debate them even 
more--is precisely because the context has altered.  Our view(s) of 
culture, nature, environment, social systems (whatever terms we use) 
have shifted due to our inter-relations within and across geographic, 
spiritual, cultural, political boundaries.  As such, we continually 
alter our cultural perspectives and beliefs.  The extent to which we 
adjust them is dependent upon our "stories" and symbols (figuratively 
or literally).  Perhaps, they're an expression of our attempts at 
(re)contructing our origin stories.  

Ecofeminism, particularly the branch of spiritual ecofeminsim, speaks 
to the role of creation stories and origin stories.  Some suggestions 
are that the Bible does indeed create a patriarchal construction of 
the environment, and it simultaneously writes women out of the 
land/seascapes of the planet.  On the other hand, we continue 
arguments about the role of women WITHIN this framework--both because 
the "traditioanl" views retain such a strong hold, OR because 
they require some form of reinterpretation.  This fits w/ Libby's 
argument about some parts of the Bible being "useful."  However, what 
is useful for one person may not be for another.  Such conflicts 
should not necessarily mean the topic, e.g., Christianity or the 
Bible, is worthless, but rather that we need to discuss these 
issues.  We need to work out what and why some views, beliefs and 
practices ARE more "sustainable" in our CURRENT local, 
regional, national, and international ecological climate.  This is 
not easy, but it is, to some extent, what many ecofeminists suggest 
needs to occur.  Donna Haraway, for instance, suggests we should 
become more comfortable with such interpretive "tensions" precisely 
because we cannot create a single, universal explanation for ALL 
situations.  This certainly challenges any form of LITERAL 
interpretation of ANY text.  Or rather, it challenges the 
idea that ALL people MUST follow the SAME beliefs.  (Some previous 
ECOFEM discussions have already covered this).

With regard to B above, many documents--or beliefs/practices passed 
through oral narratives--have retained a stronghold in cultures for 
millennia.  Cultures around the world have their own creation 
stories, some of them seemingly incredible precursors to the biblical 
story and others distinctly different, yet almost every culture HAS a 
story.  It has some way of expressing the connections between 
environment and culture, suggesting useful and approriate practices 
for inter-relating.  Perhaps the question now is which stories are 
useful for our current ecological context, a context wherein greater 
and greater species extinctions, habitat destruction, and 
transboundary challenges affect us as a "global village."  Does this 
context require a singular, universal belief structure?  Or, can we 
feel more comfortable with local belief systems helping to steer the 
ecological movements towards living WITHIN the ecological parameters 
rather than OUTSIDE them?  There does not seem to be a singular 
knowledge or worldview, so how do we make decisions about what is 
appropriate--and what we should believe--with regard to "the 
environment"?

Learning from the past and living for the future requires us to 
address difficult issues, topics, and questions.  It necessitates our 
personal and societal reflexivity.  These are characteristics our 
species has had diffciulty with in the past, but this does not make 
it impossible.  Interpretation(s) of symbols, including text, is the 
way we determine what is important and how to express that 
significance.  Let's not fix the blame; let's fix the (ever 
new and challenging?) problems.

Looking forward to continued discussions,

Stefanie






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Stefanie S. Rixecker
Department of Resource Management
Lincoln University, Canterbury
Aotearoa New Zealand
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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