I was just at the UN in NYC and they have quite a big published about female
genitial mutiliation -- i'm away from home right now and don't have access
to my books, but if you're interested, i'll post the information when i get
home. i have a master of letters in women's studies and am the director for
a women'a services organization. it seems i've come across more information
on this issue, but since i'm not at home, i can't access it. and the mind
goes first, you know peace, sue tracy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 16 11:40:11 1997
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:40:24 -0800
From: Debra West-Maciaszek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: message from KingFisher
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Yvonne Rasor wrote:
>
> I received the message from Kingfisher which talked of essays on
> "Deeper Ecology." I liked it, but the solution--one child per couple--has
> had bad ramifications for women in China. Even more disturbing, this guy
> suggests "severe punishment" for those who don't comply!!!!!
> In China, many little girls are killed and abandoned because of this
> law, because people want a son. I'm sure many women may have to suffer
> through unwanted abortions as well. How will people be severely punished?
> Jail time for loving their kids?
> Sex is always gonna happen, and therefore surprise pregnancy as
> well. Women shouldn't have to feel compelled to have unwanted abortions to
> avoid punishment. Men do not have to be the ones to go through this. This
> is incredibly sexist and restricts women's rights. Remember, little girls
> get killed and thrown out more than boys.
> Bad idea!!!!
>
> Anyone have thoughts on this?
Yvonne,
This is an issue that tears me in two. Many of the problems we have on
this planet are directly/indirectly attributable to one planet trying to
support too many human beings. Ideally, if every "couple" could limit
themselves to one child, we could make some serious progress. However,
cultural reality shows us that this is still an ideal and may never be
an equitable reality.
Between religious fundamentalists worldwide arguing against sensible
forms of birth control and cultures prizing male children over female
children, that equitable reality in a decrease in population growth
simply isn't going to happen.
I'm all for reducing the number of people sucking the lifeblood out of
the planet. And I also know what happens to women/female children when
population limits are instituted � infanticide for "girl babies" who are
"useless" and tremendous pain (emotional and physical) for women
suffering multiple abortions/deaths of their daughters. (I once joked
with my husband that if this trend keeps up, there won't be enough women
to be mothers in the future. Men will have annihilated themselves.)
Population reduction is the goal. But until we do something about the
cultural standards that allow a preference for one gender over another,
that goal will never be realized.
One step at a time; one "problem" at a time.
And please don't misunderstand me; I'm not male-bashing here. Some
women are just as supportive of this type of philosophy as the men
(granted, some of them have had it drilled into them). When people
realize that sex and reproduction are nature, not culture or religion,
and true sex education is taught and birth control supported, THEN we'll
start making some headway toward saving this planet we're so fond of.
Okay, okay, off my soapbox. I've never posted to this list before, but
this "issue" ....
Debra
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 16 11:56:57 1997
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:56:54 -0500 (EST)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: message from KingFisher
is this book Wild Swans?
Sue Tracy
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 16 11:58:17 1997
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:58:14 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: Help needed!
right on!
Sue Tracy
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 16 11:58:48 1997
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:58:37 -0800
From: Judie Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: "Those who are awake live in a state of constant amazement." Buddhist
maxim
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FGM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I was just at the UN in NYC and they have quite a big published about female
>genitial mutiliation -- i'm away from home right now and don't
have access to my books, but if you're interested, i'll post the
information when i get home. i have a master of letters in women's
studies and am the director for a women'a services organization. it
seems i've come across more information on this issue, but since i'm not
at home, i can't access it. and the mind goes first, you know peace,
sue tracy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Thanks, Sue! I vote for whatever information you can pass along, whether
privately or on the list depending on what other listmembers think.
Judie Montoya
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 16 12:01:30 1997
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:01:28 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: Help needed!
my sons adds: give a man/woman a fish, and you feed him/her for a day; teach
a man/woman HOW to fish, and you feed him/her for a lifetime. Bravo!
Sue Tracy
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 16 13:02:28 1997
17 Feb 1997 09:01 +1300 (NZD)
17 Feb 1997 09:04:26 +1300
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:04:07 +1300
From: "STEFANIE S. RIXECKER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speaker for 1997 Rachel Carson Foru
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Lincoln University
This got stuck in the ether.
Stefanie
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Subject: Re: Speaker for 1997 Rachel Carson Forum
I would recommend Patricia Hynes who has written on many environmental
issues and her most recent book is entitled A patch of Eden on community
gardens. She is a great speaker, a very thoughtful intellectual and done a
lof of wonderful work on enviormental issues from a feminist perspective.
Jael Silliman,
Women Studies
University of Iowa
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Stefanie S. Rixecker
Department of Resource Management
Lincoln University, Canterbury
Aotearoa New Zealand
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