My question is: Is TNC The Nature Conservancy, or The Nature
Conservance? II am a member of The Nature Conservancy.
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> My response to this is short: What about birth control measures??
> Or relocating the animals? If TNC truly "cares" about suffering,
> what is the organization doing to limit such suffering?? Is the
> practice of -cruelly- killing one species of animals to save others
> considered reasonable? And who is the person that decided that the
> snares kill quickly? And is this "quick kill" painless? Most
> likely not... most likely not.
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> So much suffering, more and more each day... and TNC continues to
> promote itself as caring.
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> In the end, suffering is suffering, whether I felt it, or you felt
> it, or a pig who knows no better felt it. And the more we allow,
> the more we perpetuate such practices, whether against humans or
> animals. Unfortunately, those who -cause- the suffering, seem to
> never feel it at all.
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> - Charlotte
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> At 05:29 PM 10/31/97 +0500, you wrote:
> >Feral pigs are a major factor in the tragic, unbelievably high rate of
> >species extinctions in Hawaii-- for both birds and plants. Historically,
> >Hawaii had NO mammal species - except for one insectivorous bat.
> >Therefore, native Hawaiian species have no defenses against grazing
> >mammals. Because native plants have no protective thorns, distastefulness,
> >etc. etc. feral pigs feed on them preferentially, and the plants are
> >disappearing. The pigs also create wallows, or pits in the forest for
> >mud-bathing, and these wallows (not found in pre-pig days) are the primary
> >breeding grounds for introduced mosquitoes. These mosquitoes carry avian
> >malaria (also introduced), which has decimated Hawaiian birds. Control of
> >feral pig populations is absolutely vital to conserving what's left of
> >Hawaii's precious, fragile, and unique ecosystem. Many of Hawaii's species
> >are (or were) found nowhere else in the world.
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> >Snares have been modified to kill quickly. It is to the biologist's
> >advantage if the pig is killed quickly, because that minimizes disturbance
> >to the surrounding vegetation. Also, it is to the biologist's advantage to
> >check snares often - and many are checked daily - because in this way, more
> >pigs are removed from the forest.
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> >I am against needless suffering of animals and agree with many of PETA's
> >positions. However, when extinctions and severe endangerment result from
> >introduced species, I believe the non-native animals must be removed as
> >humanely as possible. This is precisely what TNC is doing in Hawaii. One
> >final note-- when considering the suffering of animals in Hawaii, you have
> >to add in the birds dying from malaria...it is not a pleasant way to go at
> >all.
> >
> >Sue Daniels
> >VPISU Biology
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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