Tim Hundsdorfer wrote:
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> Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 2:51 PM
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
> Subject: Why Give Birth?
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> Hello,
> I am a college student doing my senior study on Child Bearing.
> My question to you as a woman or a man, married or unmarried:
> Why did you have a child, or why do you plan to?
> ..and if not, why not?
>
> My wife wanted a baby. I'm overjoyed to have my daughter, of course, but I feel
>that I could have the same feelings if we had adopted. My wife wanted the actual
>experience of childbirth and to have a child with our genetic makeup.
>
> Your honest opinions will be greatly appreciated. All replies will be
> held under the strictest confidentiality.(unless otherwise mentioned in
> your reply)
>
> If you have anything to add or ask, please feel free to do so.
>
> Thank You For Your Time
> OGG
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Dear Og,
I gave birth to three boys because it was the socially acceptable thing
to do when I married. I didn't feel I had a choice. The experience
itself frightened me very much until I attended childbirth classes,
until then I was victimized by women sharing horrible stories of
birthing experiences. Would I give my children back or make another
choice? I would definitely not give my children back, however, I would
have liked to have had the choice of whether or not to have them. Prior
to each birth I would have a slight panic attack, wondering if I would
die from the experience (some have said this is an ancestral carryover
from generations of women), wondering if the baby would be healthy (this
was long before sonograms). In retrospect, I was and still am in
complete awe of the experience. However, as a society we have a long
way to go regarding the division of childcare and developing nurturing
skills equally within a relationship. My husband wanted children,
particularly sons, to carry on his name. I was not fond of the first
nine months and the changes my body went through, however, I was more
impressed with the child itself, a complete human being. However, I'm
not sure I would have had children given the choice. Just for the
record, I am 51 years old, married 30 years.
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 5 11:29:58 1998
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Please take us off this list. Thanks.
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 6 06:59:12 1998
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Subject: Re: Definition (and an introduction)
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:59:11 -0600
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Hello Connie and welcome to the list :)
Kimberly
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From: Connie Sunday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Definition (and an introduction)
>Hello everyone:
>
>I must say, I'm happy to be on this list and looking forward to learning
>more about the subject area which, to be honest, I was not at all clear
>about coming in. It just *sounded* fascinating.
>
>Normally, you introduce yourself when coming in to a new list; I have no
>training in these areas (aside from some UG core courses at Rice
>University), but am a musician (violinist), teacher and composer.
>
>I had a recent near-flame encounter (I refused to jump at the bait) on the
>orchestralist; I objected to a thread about "bimbos." Most of the men on
>the list (not to mention the silent lurkers, male and female), agreed with
>my objections, but this one "gentlemen" came back at me with the usual
>complaints about me being too "PC" and playing the victim, which was a
>total misreading of my complaint, naturally.
>
>How do you recommend handling this sort of fellow?
>
>Best,
>Connie
>
>
>
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>
>>In the introduction to the opposing perspectives, the unnamed author gives
>>a broad characteristic defining ecofeminism which might serve helpful to
>>you:
>>
>> Central to ecofeminist theory is the tenet that man's domination
>> of nature parallels that of man's domination over women.
>>
>>Further on, Merchant traces the beginning of Eco-feminism, with
>>Francoise d'Eaubonne's monumental work "Le feminisme ou la mort"
>>("Feminism or Death) (Pierre HORAY, PARIS, 1974). She also gives an
>>outline of what she feels are the important categories that eco-feminist
>>thinking falls under: liberal, cultural, social and socialist.
>>
>>There are also several ecofeminist anthologies out there which all have
>>introductions and prefaces which can help in an effort to put your thumb
>>on the crux of evo-feminism.
>>
>>Check out:
>>
>>Reweaving the World: the Emergence of Ecofeminism
>> edited by Irene Diamond and Gloria Feman Orenstein
>>
>>Ecofeminism
>> by Maria Mies
>>
>>Radical Ecology: the search for a liveable world
>> by Carolyn Merchant
>>
>>Ecological Feminism
>> edited by Karen Warren
>>
>>Gaia and God: An Ecofeminist Theology of Earth Healing
>> by Rosemary Radford Ruether
>>
>>Gay and Gaia
>> by Daniel Spencer
>>
>>Le feminisme ou la Mort
>>Feminisme Ecologie: Revolution ou Mutation
>>Les Femmes avant le patriarcat
>>Feminin et Philosophie
>> by Francoise d'Eaubonne
>>
>>I am working on translations of d'Eaubonne's works for my M.A. thesis in
>>French and hope to have something publishable by the end of spring.
>>
>>I hope these suggestions are helpful to you as you try to nail down
>>exactly what ecofeminism means to you. Let me know how it goes.
>>
>>Jake Paisain
>>University of Montana
>>French
>>
>>
>>
>>
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