Who, wait, not so.  Check the numbers.
As far back as the 1800's there are records of people pondering the
question..."why is it that women do not, as a group, commit the kinds of
violent and atrocious crimes that men do?"  If you look at past and current
statistics, you will see clearly that 85-95% of crimes of violence are
committed by men.  Women's crimes include prostitution, petty theft, etc.  
Somebody correct me if I am wrong on the following, but the last I can
remember about 1/3 of boys and 1/2 of girls are molested in childhood...and
this is overwhelmingly done by males.  Not to mention that at least 1/2 of
women can expect physical abuse in their marriages.  Whatever it is in male
culture that leads to these inappropriate behaviors (and milder versions of
such, including 'simple' physical and psychological abuse) must have a part in
the male culture of leadership which in itself leads to abuse of persons and
the environment.  

It was neither women nor women's culture that Imagined, administrated and
implemented the European and Spanish inquisitions, the Viking and Vandal
raids, or the atrocities of the ivory, sugar and slave trades.

At least one of the First Nations in our country (drat, at the moment I can't
remember the tribe) had to ask their women for permission to go to war...which
permission was given only if there were enough food supplies for the year.
Think of it:  how would that effect us?  

Note here that I do not think differences in culture indicate differences in
humanity.  Just differences in how that humanity is (often predictably)
expressed.  

Madrone
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May  3 10:24:53 1998
        Sun, 3 May 1998 17:24:42 +0100 (BST)
From: Gladys LePretre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Thomas P. Howes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It's been fun
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 17:19:26 +0100 (BST)

Hi Thomas:
        I am a female, consider myself a feminist but do 
not ascribe to some of the content which I've been reading 
here in the past 3 days - when I joined the group. But do 
not put us all in the same basket.
 Like you, I don't feel like interacting with people who 
'attack' me when I am trying to contribute to the 
conversation.  Perhaps, if we can look at this experience 
as one which states:...you can like some of the people some 
of the time but not all of the people all of the time..'we 
can maybe make a difference by learning how to speak 
rspectfully to each other. Just thought I might offer this, 
since I've just gone through an experience where I chose to 
remove myself rather than try to make a working 
relationship. No one gains. 
Cheers,
Gladys

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On Fri, 1 May 1998 22:29:49 -0400 (EDT) "Thomas P. Howes" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>       IF there is no such thing as "separate but equal" how can there exist
> different but equal? THAT was my point. I was not trying to prove that I
> didn't own a dictionary. 
>       RESPECT. Agreed. I never had a problem with that. I've heard the
> job interview example so many times that it has lost all meaning. 
>       And whoever pointed out that lion thing, I'M SORRY! I said I
> didn't know much about lions! If the female hunts for the cubs, then good
> for her. And thanks for burying me in my blunder.
>       To all of you ecofeminists: it's been a learning experience. This
> may be my last post, but I've learned a lot. Thanks for having me and
> yelling at me, pointing out the things that make me a horrible person. I'm
> doing my best. Whoever can benefit from this, use it: I've learned that
> the worst way to fix something is to attack it directly. Strike from the
> side, and if possible, the bottom. Enjoy your battle, change the world.
> And bring back the Muppets.
>                                       -Tom
> 

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Gladys LePretre
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