Tim, thanks for the sign-off information.  No offense, but I just don't think
I want to be on a list that takes the feminism out of ecofeminism.  If I had
wanted to just be on an ecology list I would have signed up for one.
Bye!

Madrone
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 27 16:15:53 1998
From: "Linda Littrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:15:35 -0600
Subject: separtism and saving the world

Greetings:

I'm finding the recent lively discussions here to be thought- 
provoking.  Stoney's forwarded message about the upheaval at the 
anarchist meeting  starkly outlined some important issues regarding 
separtism, patriarchy, ecofeminism and feminist theory (the latter 
I'm just getting into for a liberal arts master's program).

To wit:

All the talk here about bombing terrorists, etc.  has patently 
avoided addressing the problem of the propensity to generic violence 
across the globe -- which springs, almost exclusively from the male 
gender.  We could say that this stems from enculturation, which is 
one of the primary tenents of feminist theory: that male 
socialization over the millennia predisposes many males to resort to, 
or to choose violence (from domestic violence to nuclear 
proliferation, to terrorism, to murder, and violent crime, etc...) as 
a way to act in the world.  Why is this phenomenon true?

I believe that males who espouse ecofeminism need to acknowledge the 
priviledge that maleness (especially white, heterosexual maleness) 
confers,  nearly universely.  Much of it goes unrecognized in a world 
that defines humanity with an androcentric (male) bias.  The 
anarchist meeting so vividly exposes the virulent fear and backlash 
that often occurs when this concept is brought forth for discussion.  
And I feel that this list is a very appropriate place for it to be 
discussed.  

I'm sorry if Madrone leaves because she feels the need for 
"non-mixity"  because I truly feel that men and women do need to 
keep the dialogue open....but I also feel that ecofeminist men may 
need to recognize that some of their unconscious behaviors and 
unquestioned ways of thinking are, indeed, manifistations of a 
partriarchy, alive and well, even in the progressive movement.

Regards,

Lydia in St. Paul, MN

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