this is completely ridiculous.  I am not going to write quite as long as i 
did last time, because frankly, i have a  lot of work to do, but let me 
just say this analogy totally pretends there is no such thing as a 
male-dominated America!  Men hold the majority of the power, if you call 
yourself a feminist you should at least accept that, and Euro-American 
(white) people have privileges and power people of color do not.  that is 
reality.  that is what we hope to change through sometimes getting together 
w/o men (or white people).  One cannot simply interject the dominate in 
place of the oppressed and say it is the same.  It is disappointing to even 
have to make this point.
candi churchill

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Sent:   Thursday, September 03, 1998 5:57 PM
To:     STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
Subject:        Re: Womens space -a necessity for change and development


Isn't it strange how many women take offense and cannot seem to accept the
need of men for men only space. This need exists and has existed for
centuries.
Thank God that the internet and the intrusive females on it cannot
infiltrate
the physical
"men only" discussion groups I participate in with others of my gender
where,
contrary to female fantasy and belief, we do not spend our time "female
bashing"
and reviling matriarchy but rather in trying to find ways of making things
better for men and in sharing experience and strategies and networking.
If a female were to be in the same room when we have these discussions and
meetings,
the atmosphere would be spoiled and the men in the group would be less
likely to be as
open on certain issues. As someone once said "brothers are doing it for
themselves".
Yes, we do definitely need our female free space at times.

Sounds quite sexist this way, doesn't it???

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On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, bunny wrote:

> Isn't it strange how many men take offense and cannot seem to accept the
> need of women for women only space. This need exists and has existed for
> centuries.
> Thank God that the internet and the intrusive males on it cannot 
infiltrate
> the physical
> "women only" discussion groups I participate in with others of my gender 
where,
> contrary to male fantasy and belief, we do not spend our time "male 
bashing"
> and reviling patriarchy but rather in trying to find ways of making 
things
> better for women and in sharing experience and strategies and networking. 
> If a male were to be in the same room when we have these discussions and
> meetings,
> the atmosphere would be spoiled and the women in the group would be less
> likely to be as
> open on certain issues. As someone once said "sisters are doing it for
> themselves".
> Yes, we do definitely need our male free space at times.
>
> Marguerite
> 
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