bertina:
>Watch out Chris, I as a woman, also mentioned getting a new listserv for
>women only and I was bashed for doing so!
thanks bertina! : maybe we now know whose side some males are actually on.
i just hope the men don't bash me or worse for abrogating all the religious
curses against womankind ... and where will the women be if they do??
where are the women who will stand up for the men who do stand alongside??
dear maureen and sarah : thanks!
dear candy and lori anne : all this stuff linking male, white, privileged
and asshole to get the ecofeminist men and saying female, black,
third-world and lesbian are cool and need to go into secret session is
jingoistic. You are trying to assume a moral majority just like all the
fundamentalists of history. Nothing new, but slack shit as Will said. It
IS a form of psychological oppression by double-think
sarah:
>But it is interesting how tense and angry even "enlightened" men become
>when >the need for a space without men is mentioned. "Don't lump me in
>with them!" >they scream... "I'm enlightened - you can't leave me out!"
this is psychologically abusing (bashing) men here by false charicature:
legitimate protest is 'tense', 'angry' and 'screaming' if its male
'righteous work' if it is female even if emotionally charged with angry outrage
candi:
>This whole argument really sharpens my feelings about how distracted we
>can get >when people begin the backlash.
valid critique is not 'the backlash' it is as much sanity rounding the
sharp corners of oppression
>those same privileged people distract us from our work by making us feel
>guilty >or questioning ourselves.
soul-searching is absolutely critical to any form of wisdom - not distraction
failing to question oneselves is the root of fascist thinking
soul-searching is also a key feminine response to hierarchy
pull this leg out and we are in serious trouble
guilt is another country - classic patriarchal oppression
love, Chris
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