>In a message dated 98-09-08 07:48:59 EDT, you write:
>
><< I think that spirit is always trying to tell us to do right and
> that we don't listen very well. I don't think all pagans share this
> particular belief, but all pagans believe in the spirituality of nature in
> real and interactive way and are NOT atheists or agnostics and , for the
> most part, don't proselatize.
> You want a feminine face of creation? Look in the mirror. Look out
> the window. To this pagan there is no firm line between the creator and the
> creation. To honor the creation is to honor the creator. >>
>
>Hi!
>
>Thanks for the explanation Will - I also consider you a friend. Yes! I am a
>feminine face of creation - just one of many faces! Do you consider yourself
>a feminine face of creation?
this reminds me that i just saw a study that says that women find men with
more feminine faces more attractive than men with more masculine faces. I'm
clean shaven every summer and grow a nice bushy beard that is quite grey
these days.
I guess i consider the Sun to be masculine, the Earth to be feminine and
that life is both. We are the energy of the Sun invested and brought to
term in the warm wet womb of Earth. I consider both the Sun and Earth to be
conscious entities who nurture our development. I don't know much about
supernatural beings not of this Earth. I'm not sure i like the word
supernatural since i think the existence of spirit beings is natural. There
are powerful spiritual agencies helping us evolve, i don't really know who
they are or what they are or if they is a good word.
>You say to honor the creation is to honor the creator - do you believe that
>the creation is the creator? There is no separate creator entity/spirit other
>than creation here on Earth? Is that what pagans believe? Do they believe in
>supernatural spirits not of this Earth and if yes, who are they? I am
>genuinely curious now.
Dippedifiknow. I'm genuinely curious too. But like i said previously, i
think the golden rule is plenty for us to ponder. I think buddah said "
don't do to others what you wouldn't want them to do to you", and then
jesus said " do unto others what you would have them do unto you". I think
that before we appeal to some far spiritual agency for help we should try
to practice these simple instructions that we've already recieved.
But to further explain paganism. I think many of us have been influenced
by books which use pagan gods and goddesses of old mythologies to help us
define our archetypes and map our unconscious territory. Gods and
goddesses exemplify human talents and faults. Perhaps they re present
genetypes or bundles of talents and faults that we often see in our
species. Were these ideas actually energy resevoirs that could be
accessed humans who would then resonate and respond? Are they a sort of
spiritual beauracracy, working with human evolution?? Are they psychic
organs of our species which is itself a psychic organ in Gaia?
Dippedifiknow.
Here is a short poem:
Godis great
Godis good
Godis generally misunderstood
to be this thing or that thing
or something above
when the Word is a verb
and the verb is Love
will bason
