Bertina,
I don't know you or why you responded in this manner but to clarify....I
was referring to you dictionary definition, I am a pagan and I was (for 21
year a christian). And I do know the difference between Pagans, Athiests,
and christians.
Blessed Be,
--Diana..
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"Wherever you go, there you are."
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On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Bertina Miller wrote:
> Well thanks Ms. dictionary, but Christians and believers usually are the
> ones to spout out who they think are the pagans not the nonbelievers.
>
> Bertina
>
> On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, LONERGAN DIANA LOUISE wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > About Paganism, There are many types of Pagans but since Pagans believe in
> > 'more than one god' as the dictionary says. and athiests' believe that
> > there is no god or gods at all-- I would put Pagans and Athiests into 2
> > different catagories.
> >
> > --Diana..
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> > "Wherever you go, there you are."
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> >
> > On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, Bertina Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Pagan as defined in the dictionary:
> > > any person believing in more than one god or anyone not a muslim, jew or
> > > christian. Being an athiest, I would be considered a pagan, so would
> > > a buddhist, so would anyone who isnt one of the 3 stated above.
> > >
> > > Bertina
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > On Tue, 8 Sep 1998, will bason wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello angela,
> > > >
> > > > Let me start off by telling you that i consider you an old friend
> > > > at this point and have come to like and respect you very much for your
> > > > goodhearted corespondance.
> > > > You asked for an explanation of paganism a few days ago and i don't
> > > > think anyone responded which was a mistake because i think you fundamentaly
> > > > misunderstand what it is about. Paganism is in no way the absense of
> > > > religion, it IS a religion, one that teaches that nature teaches.
> > > > I can't help being a pagan. I think i just am one from birth.
> > > > When i read starhawk's "dreaming the dark" it fealt like finding a
> > > > homeplace that i'd forgotten about. I highly recommend that you read this
> > > > book.
> > > > I believe that spirit contacts me through nature. The timing of
> > > > bird calls in regard to exactly what i'm thinking is perhaps the best
> > > > example. (unconscious human interactions also, we tell each other
> > > > everything) I think that spirit is always trying to tell us to do right and
> > > > that we don't listen very well. I don't think all pagans share this
> > > > particular belief, but all pagans believe in the spirituality of nature in
> > > > real and interactive way and are NOT atheists or agnostics and , for the
> > > > most part, don't proselatize.
> > > > You want a feminine face of creation? Look in the mirror. Look out
> > > > the window. To this pagan there is no firm line between the creator and the
> > > > creation. To honor the creation is to honor the creator.
> > > > I should probably also mention that a lot of pagans have a little
> > > > problem with christianity stemming in part from the fact that so many
> > > > pagans, witches and heretics were killed in the not too distant past, often
> > > > in the most cruel ways imaginable. Many of us carry the historical imprint
> > > > of this and it is all the more painful because in society at large, it is a
> > > > repressed memory. Therefore this is a loaded topic!!!
> > > > I also choose c in your mulltiple choice test about multiple
> > > > choices you posted a few days back. Anyway, i think that you misunderstood
> > > > paganism to be less of a religion and more of a denial of religion or you
> > > > wouldn't have said what you did and i just thought to tell you.
> > > >
> > > > your born again pagan friend,
> > > >
> > > > will bason
> > > >
> > > > p.s. the word "pagan" comes from a word meaning "rural villager"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >In a message dated 98-09-06 18:38:58 EDT, Chris writes:
> > > > >
> > > > ><< So how does 'eco' heal 'fem' everyone? >>
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi!
> > > > >I think this should read how does 'fem' heal 'eco'? How can the feminists who
> > > > >are anti-racists, pro-feminism, pro-ecology, etc. help heal the patriarchial
> > > > >epoch? By teaching paganism? NO! By teaching neopaganism? I think NOT -
> > > > >that no religion is good religion is not going to solve anything AND it will
> > > > >just create more separatism - we need nature connection and spiritual reunion
> > > > >NOT disconnection and separatism! (sorry if I offended the pagans on the
> > > > >list/believe me I have been offended many times - has not changed my spiritual
> > > > >beliefs - and will not stop me from expressing them!) By teaching reverse
> > > > >discrimination? No way - no way! The only real avenue of resolution here is
> > > > >to stop the misunderstanding that the spirit of creation is to blame for the
> > > > >misunderstanding. The Earth was never intended to be dominated by over-
> > > > >zealous, disrespectful, power hungry, greedy men or women! You need evidence?
> > > > >Women were also given hearts and brains and muscle-we are not unequals - time
> > > > >to start using them to prove it! The Earth needs equal partners/men and women
> > > > >co-defenders and co-creators in true love for each other to help it heal!
> > > > >Women and men need to come out of the woodwork here and speak up and out on
> > > > >behalf of the feminine face(s) of creation! Let's celebrate the feminine and
> > > > >reveal the truth - we ARE spirits in a material world!
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks!
> > > > >Angela
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