Thanks for your response Frederique. I like your notion of
responsibility a lot. Can you tell me where to get the entire text of
the Bill of Responsibilities? Having been involved in early childhood
education -- as a family day care provider for 4 years -- I think one of
the most useful things we can do for the future of the planet is teach
our children (and learn ourselves) to move away from the consideration
only of *my own* rights to the consideration of the rights of others
*and* our shared responsibilities to the larger community. So, I would be
really interested in reading more about this.
Jayne
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I completely agree with Jayne's post as she stated that maybe we should be
more concerned about how all of the things we consume were produced, and not
just focus on meat. This has been one of those ideal ideas I keep in the
back of my head for a while now. Though I try, I cannot imagine the amount
of money that goes into growing things out of season, transporting demanded
fruits and vegetables all over the globe, etc. etc. I can imagine regional
self-supporting communities that grow the things suited to their regions
(gee, imagine that!) and if tomatoes don't grow from October to June, then
you don't eat tomatoes during those months! Think of the lessened exploitation
of animals were this scenario the case. The community kills what it needs,
processes it in a much less harmful (chemically, etc.) way, and wastes nothing.
Global transportation is no longer needed, which translates into less petro-
chemicals, consolidated regional farmlands, less trucks, fewer roads, and
probably a hundred more things I can't think of.
What is comes down to is changing our patterns of (over)consumption and greed,
and putting the Earth first in recognizing less-destructive ways to survive.
Gotta go,
Natalie
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........i'd like to say that this type of attitude can go a long
way.....not just with our consumption but in every aspect of our lives......
political correctness is not the pinicle of anything........... you
can get to a point when you are at what is commonly and generaly accepted as
politicly correct...... but in almost every "pc" situation you can step back
and see that there are so many factors that make it totaly "politicly
incorrect" or actualy irrelevent
like banning meat from a "pc" confrence looks utterly "pc" from the
face...... but in the face of the regional consumption issue being a
vegetarian at all,... is like "so what"
another example would be..... wheelchair accesability on forrest /
wilderness trails... ...... i personaly can look at that and see how actualy
un "pc" it is.......
i don't suggest we abandon all "political morals" ......i just suggest
we just keep cool heads when trying to find our solutions slow down,
take a look at what we come up with and try and see it from as many sides
as you can ........because our solutions have so many sides.
basicly the last paragraph natalie wrote sums it up for me.
curtis
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Subject: Yea for Regional Consumption!
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 1994 8:02AM
I completely agree with Jayne's post as she stated that maybe we should be
more concerned about how all of the things we consume were produced, and not
just focus on meat. This has been one of those ideal ideas I keep in the
back of my head for a while now. Though I try, I cannot imagine the amount
of money that goes into growing things out of season, transporting demanded
fruits and vegetables all over the globe, etc. etc. I can imagine regional
self-supporting communities that grow the things suited to their regions
(gee, imagine that!) and if tomatoes don't grow from October to June, then
you don't eat tomatoes during those months! Think of the lessened
exploitation
of animals were this scenario the case. The community kills what it needs,
processes it in a much less harmful (chemically, etc.) way, and wastes
nothing.
Global transportation is no longer needed, which translates into less petro-
chemicals, consolidated regional farmlands, less trucks, fewer roads, and
probably a hundred more things I can't think of.
What is comes down to is changing our patterns of (over)consumption and
greed,
and putting the Earth first in recognizing less-destructive ways to survive.
Gotta go,
Natalie
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I completely agree with both Jayne and Natalie, about the
need for a more local and seasonal approach toward
consumming food, to help the environment(and one's own
health all at the same time). This month's issue
(November/December 1994) of _Sierra_ magazine has "The
Planet on Your Plate: Saving the Earth Three Times a Day,"
on the cover, with several articles dedicated to this very
issue.
I'll share with you a quote by Alice Waters,"founder of Chez
Panisse and mother of the movement back to natural, seasonal
ingredients," quoted on pg. 97 of the latest _Sierra_,
"If you choose to eat mass-produced fast food, you are
supporting a network of supply and demand that is destroying
local communities and traditional ways of life all over the
world--a system that replaces self-sufficiency with
dependence. And you are supporting a method of agriculture
that is ecologically unsound--that depletes the soil and
leaves harmful chemical residues in our food. But if you
decide to eat fresh food in season--and only in season--that
is locally grown by farmers who take care of the earth, then
your are contributing to the health and stability of local
agriculture and local communitites. Actions have
consequences, and people acting responsibly *can* make a
difference."
I agree! I encourage you to read the article. It is a good
one.
---Amy
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My, what an interesting experience in catching up to the last week's
ECOFEM digests ...
Perhaps we all should just mellow out a tad.
I think that I'm not opposed to an ecofeminist conference offering a
"meat-free" diet, but by that I mean a vegatarian (not vegan) diet. Let
the majority of vegatarians who are dependent upon their lactose, ovo, or
whatever be able to cope. Offer Soya Burgers and meat subsititutes.
But let's not try to force feed some "ideal" version of vegetarianism
down everyone's throats. Sure, make sure that a "true" vegan course of
meals is available (offer choices, not force us into little boxes).
While I think that a discussion of lesbian or hetero restrictions may be
interesting as a part (optional) of a conference, or even a workshop,
it's obviously very divisive here.
Gaia is diversity - not just one choice.
William Affleck-Asch | The above is my personal opinion only and does not
Seattle | necessarily reflect the opinions of any of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | many organizations I belong to or represent. :-)
